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8. I agree

Sat Apr 29, 2017, 01:29 PM

Apr 2017

I think that our Democratic Party is best served by honest introspection and self honesty. Constructive criticism and objectivity are what's desperately needed right now. The vibe I get on DU is that only nice things are allowed to be said towards the party?

Anyway, I have a high tolerance for pov's different than mine, cuz my boomer public education taught me free speech means accepting speech you don't like and suppressing and forbidding speech is bad.

And holyhellinahandbasket do we have to do something QUICK AND SMART AND WISE AND EFFECTIVE and together in numbers never seen before that must be a hell of a lot of us if we are to weather the largest Constitutional Crisis since the inception of our semi-great nation.

NOTE: I learned recently that the USA was the first nation in history founded on ideals! Aforementioned "ideals" have been slowly rendered INOPERATIVE a mere 90 days after 9/11, due to speed of light passage of the Constitution Killing PATRIOT ACT. In my opinion, the basic foundation for a future TOTALITARIAN FASCIST POLICE STATE.

Which is why so many of us are clamoring for even more opiates.

-90% Jimmy

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+1. K&R. n/t rzemanfl Apr 2017 #1

You can sense people, those who would carry a vendetta or tag team--add them to your Jury Blacklist! TheBlackAdder Apr 2017 #71

the jury blacklist is not long enough womanofthehills Apr 2017 #79

True. During the primary, I counted one side with at least 20 and the other side with 45 flaggers. TheBlackAdder Apr 2017 #87

Agreed you should have an alert limit Egnever Apr 2017 #91

Why would anyone fish for hides? Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #111

Because they had a disagreement and are mad about it. Egnever Apr 2017 #115

I agree! Cattledog Apr 2017 #2

Me too! nt Plucketeer Apr 2017 #64

I think the rules are being applied a bit too literally and would encourage admins to revisit hlthe2b Apr 2017 #3

agreed sarah FAILIN Apr 2017 #5

me too.. i tend to be a bit liberal in my intrepertation when i am asked to jury... samnsara Apr 2017 #26

You are only called to jury for a thread you have not posted on. nt tblue37 Apr 2017 #88

In those cases, you can cancel your jury service. Demit Apr 2017 #33

Yes... I do occasionally cancel... hlthe2b Apr 2017 #74

You can expand the previous posts in the thread. athena Apr 2017 #68

That helps in some cases, but not all... hlthe2b Apr 2017 #75

Sometimes the posts leading up to the flagged post are worse womanofthehills Apr 2017 #83

Yes I've noticed that too Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2017 #129

wow, why did they do that? That seems awful. What is the upside to that approach? nt JCanete Apr 2017 #106

+1 demmiblue Apr 2017 #4

+1,000,000 frankieallen Apr 2017 #6

I'd express an opinion but it would get hidden...nt comradebillyboy Apr 2017 #7

I agree 90-percent Apr 2017 #8

Agree!!! n/t RKP5637 Apr 2017 #13

forgot to make the point with respect to the OP 90-percent Apr 2017 #15

Yep, I think so too, ... about your last sentence. n/t RKP5637 Apr 2017 #25

Yep, the last sentence... IthinkThereforeIAM Apr 2017 #42

Constructive criticism and honest introspection of our path generates intense ad hominem action. JudyM Apr 2017 #37

+1,000,000 RKP5637 Apr 2017 #9

Agreed - that also happens with Ring of Fire womanofthehills Apr 2017 #77

Alerted - This post is meta. Snarkoleptic Apr 2017 #10

I posted a criticism of one certain person for what he/she said a few days ago doc03 Apr 2017 #11

and this is a huge part of my point sarah FAILIN Apr 2017 #19

Also when said person is not a registered Democrat to start with. nt doc03 Apr 2017 #22

dingding sarah FAILIN Apr 2017 #43

Of course in reality melman Apr 2017 #69

What did the other candidate do recently? sarah FAILIN Apr 2017 #95

The abortion issue Egnever Apr 2017 #99

This is getting to confusing sarah FAILIN Apr 2017 #107

I will send you a pm Egnever Apr 2017 #108

This has been my experience as well. Egnever Apr 2017 #96

so long as you aren't prone to alerting for criticisms of what dems say or do in real-time, I'm JCanete Apr 2017 #116

Same here EffieBlack Apr 2017 #58

People are alerting rusty fender Apr 2017 #12

Yep, I've seen a lot of that and it really po's me! n/t RKP5637 Apr 2017 #14

If posts clearly don't break DU ToS, jurors should see that & not vote to hide. Demit Apr 2017 #40

That's what I do radical noodle Apr 2017 #54

should Egnever Apr 2017 #86

But with *jurors* that are FAIR and HONEST, this shouldn't matter at all, right? NurseJackie Apr 2017 #63

Sadly with the way the alert system is currently Egnever Apr 2017 #89

Yes that does happen but eventually the person who does the alerting is filtered out by the system cstanleytech Apr 2017 #114

I almost never get alerted on anywhere else bekkilyn Apr 2017 #16

It makes one not even want to post here in fear of offending the thinned-skin and being alerted... Trial_By_Fire Apr 2017 #17

Lots of delicate flowers I guess. frankieallen Apr 2017 #23

There's a lot of alerts that are just disagreement with differing opinions. Ms. Toad Apr 2017 #18

Agreed. JudyM Apr 2017 #30

I've been posting on this board for over 10 ten years.... rgbecker Apr 2017 #20

I am glad DU is not allowing itself to become a playground for Russian trolls. athena Apr 2017 #29

... Egnever Apr 2017 #76

Me too...and I have had a post hidden (deserved) and one where it was unfair..and you can appeal... Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #78

Same over ten years Egnever Apr 2017 #84

it's kinda boring when everyone is saying the same thing. I've had three frankieallen Apr 2017 #21

I'm curious, how did you know the person's motive for alerting? Demit Apr 2017 #45

It just happened again. sarah FAILIN Apr 2017 #24

How do you know you were alerted? Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #104

Not this thread sarah FAILIN Apr 2017 #123

Me 2 MFM008 Apr 2017 #27

Don't put down big pharma womanofthehills Apr 2017 #92

Yes, its being used as a vendetta button elmac Apr 2017 #28

Things can be said without getting an alert. liberal N proud Apr 2017 #31

And if attacking Democrats is one's goal, one is in the wrong place. athena Apr 2017 #36

Sorry all it takes is the right persons name in the post Egnever Apr 2017 #81

Most of the juries I have served on are for posts that get nasty and attack another DUer. tblue37 Apr 2017 #94

Not true - you can be very nice and still be alerted if they have an agenda womanofthehills Apr 2017 #98

I opted out of the jury system here PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2017 #32

Agreed Freethinker65 Apr 2017 #53

I don't serve on juries therefore I NEVER alert on posts. m-lekktor Apr 2017 #67

I don't alert on posts either. PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2017 #70

I agree LiberalLovinLug Apr 2017 #34

I haven't sent a jury alert since last year. hrmjustin Apr 2017 #35

If we all agreed to be constructive this problem would evaporate. JudyM Apr 2017 #38

Haha Egnever Apr 2017 #93

Seems like a pipe dream for that to happen at this point. JudyM Apr 2017 #100

Yup Egnever Apr 2017 #102

There's unfortunately a heck of a lot of paranoia and always has been. MadDAsHell Apr 2017 #39

I think there are Hayduke Bomgarte Apr 2017 #41

K&R HAB911 Apr 2017 #44

I was just on a jury about a pro-Obama post. mahina Apr 2017 #46

I also don't like it that we are asked to ascribe a motive as to why a post was flagged Mr. Ected Apr 2017 #47

+1000!!!! JoeOtterbein Apr 2017 #48

It's certainly succeeded in reducing my posting level. Crunchy Frog Apr 2017 #49

Haven't ever sat on a jury. sellitman Apr 2017 #50

From my experience on juries few alerts are on posts that actually contribute anything to cstanleytech Apr 2017 #51

Really? Egnever Apr 2017 #90

Well yes, people who have been alerted and have been hidden are going to complain cstanleytech Apr 2017 #103

And again multiple decade long posters Egnever Apr 2017 #105

No its just that I'm waiting for an official announcement from skinner that there is actually a cstanleytech Apr 2017 #120

Fair enough Egnever Apr 2017 #121

I would agree with that assessment..and Bull Shit alerts are knocked down. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #109

Or its alerted because sometimes people start petty bickering and then one of the parties cstanleytech Apr 2017 #128

We have different values about rises or doesn't, to the level of substance. In my opinion JCanete Apr 2017 #126

Again though all I can do is offer up my opinion of my experience with serving on the juries cstanleytech Apr 2017 #130

Maybe one in ten alerts is a real rule breaker Warpy Apr 2017 #52

Some long time posters object to the rules, one rule in particular. JudyM Apr 2017 #113

I agree Skittles Apr 2017 #55

What I liked about the old system Retrograde Apr 2017 #56

Problem with that, is that their alert comment could be deceptive LostOne4Ever Apr 2017 #61

The current rules are too specific melman Apr 2017 #66

Yes. I'm tired of holding back and having to write like I'm walking on a minefield lunamagica Apr 2017 #57

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2017 #59

It's kind of bad when a newcomer is so critical of the group he just joined. athena Apr 2017 #72

Since I said I think it is being done by reps.. sarah FAILIN Apr 2017 #101

Agreed left-of-center2012 Apr 2017 #60

I have noticed an uptick in jury summons. SCVDem Apr 2017 #62

I got a post hidden the other day get the red out Apr 2017 #65

Agreed Egnever Apr 2017 #73

Finally, someone had the guts to speak up ProudLib72 Apr 2017 #80

probably someone without 5 hides on their current account. nt JCanete Apr 2017 #110

What are you referring to? Me? ProudLib72 Apr 2017 #117

heh, no, me. JCanete Apr 2017 #118

I thought four was the limit. nt ProudLib72 Apr 2017 #119

It may be 4, and I think they cycle off. nt JCanete Apr 2017 #122

Ooohhh, I thought there might be double secret probation. nt ProudLib72 Apr 2017 #124

I got alerted Chevy Apr 2017 #82

A month or so back tiredtoo Apr 2017 #85

I have never alerted once in my DU life! m-lekktor Apr 2017 #97

agreed; it's pretty weak. nt TheFrenchRazor Apr 2017 #112

No shit - I must have like 500 juries... hexola Apr 2017 #125

I turned off jury service simply because they were constantly coming in and were mostly nonsense Egnever Apr 2017 #127