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BainsBane

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94. The point is something is seriously F ed up

Sat Apr 29, 2017, 04:18 PM

Apr 2017

about the contempt for that particular company because of its location in the economic center of the nation, while the very same people have bent over backwards to make excuses for industries that profit from killing: gun corporations, whose profits people here insisted had to be protected from lawsuits by lowly citizens, while so-called progressives justified billions going to Lockheed-Martin for the F-35, just because you happen to like the politician that voted to protect their blood-drenched profits. But any company in Manhattan is evil. That goes beyond hypocritical to something far worse.

Meanwhile, undermining abortion rights and increasing poverty for women and children, that must be defended.

No. I'ts not working. The masks have fallen, and we can see clear what we are dealing with.

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Cantor Fitzgerald, where Obama will be paid for speaking, lost 658 employees in the 2001 WTC attack. [View all] pnwmom Apr 2017 OP

It's interesting that people were saying Goldman Sachs- I guess it's like oligarch... bettyellen Apr 2017 #1

Hmmmm.... sheshe2 Apr 2017 #11

Yes ... "Tourette's" ... that's it exactly. Automatic, uncontrollable, without-thinking, impulsive. NurseJackie Apr 2017 #33

Tourette's, yes NastyRiffraff Apr 2017 #62

Thanks pnwmom for point out these facts! Docreed2003 Apr 2017 #2

dont thank him , i posted the same thing yesterday with only one comment (first to bring it up) tapermaker Apr 2017 #55

? Sorry...I didn't see it...it wasn't an intentional oversight.... Docreed2003 Apr 2017 #64

People notice subject lines first. What was yours? pnwmom Apr 2017 #109

My subject line read wall street firm Obamas speaking to is a little different . tapermaker Apr 2017 #121

The knee jerkers owe President Obama an apology..and that Cha Apr 2017 #3

***I hope everyone reads this post, too!*** pnwmom Apr 2017 #4

You're Welcome.. and passing on this found on FB.. Cha Apr 2017 #7

Thanks, again! pnwmom Apr 2017 #9

But...But Me. Apr 2017 #52

In the nastiest way possible.. Cha Apr 2017 #106

Pololei ʻoe Me. Apr 2017 #110

And, Haoles such as me.. Mahalo, Me. Cha Apr 2017 #112

I Think This Was A Step Too Far/Final Straw For Some Me. Apr 2017 #113

Really.. I could have Cha Apr 2017 #116

... sheshe2 Apr 2017 #12

Aloha back@cha, she Cha Apr 2017 #13

Thank you! We need to start thinking and stop merely reacting! nolabear Apr 2017 #37

You're Welcome, nolabear! Cha Apr 2017 #105

K to the R musette_sf Apr 2017 #5

PLEASE EVERYONE READ MUSETTE'S POST #5. pnwmom Apr 2017 #6

Great post. Thank you. SunSeeker Apr 2017 #16

Thank you so much. nolabear Apr 2017 #39

+1000s DinahMoeHum Apr 2017 #82

No clue. Just Diss. sheshe2 Apr 2017 #8

Thank you so much canetoad Apr 2017 #10

Thanks for posting- criticisms of Pres. Obama are shortsighted and not helpful wishstar Apr 2017 #14

Just lazy thinking on the part of some. They hear "Wall Street" and their brains stop working. pnwmom Apr 2017 #15

Sanders and Warren owe Obama an apology. nt SunSeeker Apr 2017 #17

I agree. n/t pnwmom Apr 2017 #18

+ 1 musette_sf Apr 2017 #53

Noun-verb-9/11... I don't see how this is relevent. Money is speech, but doesn't influence politics That Guy 888 Apr 2017 #19

Cantor Fitzgerald wasn't involved with the mortgage bundling and home loans that helped bring about pnwmom Apr 2017 #20

Cantor Fitzgerald traders were indicted PaintedSkies Apr 2017 #88

He only worked at the firm from till 2011-13. CF didn't offer those securities in 2008, pnwmom Apr 2017 #95

No, Cantor Fitzgerald is not a charity, nor is it Goldman Sachs. SunSeeker Apr 2017 #21

Of course it's not relevant melman Apr 2017 #22

Bernie didn't research Ossoff before he stuck his foot in his mouth. emulatorloo Apr 2017 #31

What does Bernie Sanders have to do with the OP, 9/11, or Obama's speaking fees... That Guy 888 Apr 2017 #85

Bernie has been criticizing Obama for taking the speaking fee from Cantor Fitzgerald. pnwmom Apr 2017 #97

It is literally waving the bloody shirt. Voltaire2 Apr 2017 #30

Nobody is "literally" waving a bloody shirt. emulatorloo Apr 2017 #32

Ok you might have a point. Voltaire2 Apr 2017 #34

Thanks for the link! emulatorloo Apr 2017 #42

You should learn what literally means. pnwmom Apr 2017 #69

See up thread. Voltaire2 Apr 2017 #81

Of COURSE their primary concern is making money; thats how you STAY in business, 7962 Apr 2017 #35

This is how far around the bend we have gone. As A NYer who contributes taxes for all bettyellen Apr 2017 #48

You know because you live there. So many just hear "Wall St" & shudder. 7962 Apr 2017 #83

"...Many companies do a lot of good with their profits" OMFG That Guy 888 Apr 2017 #86

hey! Lets try it the way venezuela is doing it. THAT oughta work! 7962 Apr 2017 #118

I'm not the one that said that if a company does horrible things it's ok That Guy 888 Apr 2017 #120

As a lifelong NYer, screw this glib response. I know you think Giuliani give you the right to bettyellen Apr 2017 #49

I vividly remember this guy Blue_Roses Apr 2017 #23

He lost 68% of his employees -- including his brother, who helped found the company with him. pnwmom Apr 2017 #24

I didn't know Blue_Roses Apr 2017 #25

I am guessing Sanders and Warren didn't know either, and/or forgot. SunSeeker Apr 2017 #73

I'm not sure what that is all about Blue_Roses Apr 2017 #119

Yes, I remember CE that day. VigilantG Apr 2017 #26

What does one have to do with the other? HopeAgain Apr 2017 #27

That Cantor Fitzgerald wasn't involved with the home loans and mortgage bundling pnwmom Apr 2017 #29

Its easier for many to paint EVERYONE with the same brush regardless of facts. nt 7962 Apr 2017 #36

Thanks for this thread! Madam45for2923 Apr 2017 #28

Did you ever read about Cantor Fitzgerald's lawsuit against American Airlines QC Apr 2017 #38

I just read about it. The settlement money was given to the shareholders and not the families. m-lekktor Apr 2017 #41

Yeah, that was sickening beyond belief. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2017 #43

The settlement was not about loss of employees. tammywammy Apr 2017 #44

And the families didn't see a dime. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2017 #45

Apparently the partners got about $25,000,000 each. n/t QC Apr 2017 #46

The partners had shared more than that out of their profits with the victims' families pnwmom Apr 2017 #66

Your other post is wrong. tammywammy Apr 2017 #47

You must not have read the rest of the post. That company gave 25% of its profits for 5 years to ... brush Apr 2017 #54

I'm with you, and as a lifelong Dem musette_sf Apr 2017 #57

Families would have had their own cases treestar Apr 2017 #117

Not true. Sickening to see the trutch distorted for political points bettyellen Apr 2017 #50

Take it up with the families. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2017 #75

I'm not under the delusion that every finance company is inherently evil.... bettyellen Apr 2017 #87

Then why were the filies pissed off the CEO pocketed ... Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2017 #90

Oh please. Some were perhaps as confused as posters here- it happens. bettyellen Apr 2017 #93

They did NOT sue "for loss of employees." That's false. And they did not sue pnwmom Apr 2017 #65

Yes they did. They initially sued for wrongful death - of their employees Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2017 #76

And that was tossed out. If they had received money for wrongful death, pnwmom Apr 2017 #78

Cantor is not Goldman, Cantor wants to be Goldman HoneyBadger Apr 2017 #79

Why must you be so cruel to the suffering investment bankers? QC Apr 2017 #80

Do the families hate them for the ten years of insurance they paid for - or other money they gave? bettyellen Apr 2017 #98

That poor CEO had to pay himself $25 million out of that settlement. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2017 #100

So yeah, after enormous losses and great generosity they should give more.... bettyellen Apr 2017 #102

It is his business. He experienced businesses losses as a result of the attack, pnwmom Apr 2017 #103

Yes. And I have no problem with how they handled it. They didn't pnwmom Apr 2017 #61

Best thread I've seen in a long time. Thank you! nolabear Apr 2017 #40

Are you suggesting it would be somehow wrong if he was giving the speech to Goldman Sachs? n/t hughee99 Apr 2017 #51

No. But the people who are so outraged about that should shut up. n/t pnwmom Apr 2017 #59

I agree, but I'm not sure this argument will persuade them. hughee99 Apr 2017 #70

Given all that, I'm surprised Obama demanded so much. GeorgeGist Apr 2017 #56

Yeah, Obama's wrong no matter what he does. pnwmom Apr 2017 #58

Can you believe some of these people? Sanders and Warren both owe Obama an apology brush Apr 2017 #63

Do we know if he "demanded" it or was that the "offer"? 7962 Apr 2017 #84

I lost a good friend that day who worked at Cantor kimbutgar Apr 2017 #60

Many people did, kimbutgar. Thanks for speaking up! n/t pnwmom Apr 2017 #67

My wife's first cousin was lost there too. I worked in Manhattan then at 25th and Park and for ... brush Apr 2017 #68

Thank you, brush. I know many people in NYC, and saw how devastating pnwmom Apr 2017 #71

And your point is what exactly? Vinca Apr 2017 #72

They have been accused here of being part of the cause for the financial crisis of 2008. pnwmom Apr 2017 #74

The point is Obama speaking at Canter Fitgerald is not the equivalent of Trump appointing Mnuchin. SunSeeker Apr 2017 #77

There is no point at all melman Apr 2017 #91

That means it makes all the sense in the world. Cha Apr 2017 #111

The point is something is seriously F ed up BainsBane Apr 2017 #94

+1. nt pnwmom Apr 2017 #96

Extremely informative thread from many of my favorite people. Thank you, mahalo, gracias... Hekate Apr 2017 #89

The only time I've heard of Cantor Fitzgerald is in regard to 9/11 BainsBane Apr 2017 #92

The boss is scum- took money intended for the families alarimer Apr 2017 #99

That's false. The judge specifically disallowed any award for the families, pnwmom Apr 2017 #101

Got a link for your claim he misappropriated money? Or are you just making that up? nt SunSeeker Apr 2017 #104

Speaking at Cantor in general ... I got no problem with that ... at all ... mr_lebowski Apr 2017 #107

Why? The topic is healthcare, a subject he's intensely interested in, pnwmom Apr 2017 #108

DUers are welcome to never vote for Obama ever again IronLionZion Apr 2017 #114

True enough! But I'd rather people here not disparage good Democrats pnwmom Apr 2017 #115