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In reply to the discussion: Sanders Supporters Get Their Day In Court Against Wasserman Schultz [View all]Gothmog
(181,028 posts)159. Real lawyers do not think that this lawsuit is that meaningful
Last edited Sun Apr 30, 2017, 12:07 PM - Edit history (1)
This lawsuit may be a big deal on JPR but many if not most posters on JPR are idiots. Here is the petition that was posted on JPR http://jampac.us/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/1-CLASS-ACTION-COMPLAINT-6-28-16.pdf Again you are defending the petition without actually reading it. I have read the original petition and it is dreck. When I read the petition, I actually looked up the DC consumer protection law and saw that it did not apply. Re-read your posts on this issue and you will see why I was so amused by your claims.
I don't know if that claim is in there. I also don't know whether it's crazy.
Last edited Sat Apr 29, 2017, 03:56 PM - Edit history (1)
The first thing one thinks of in "consumer protection" is misrepresentations made by a defendant who's selling stuff -- "Please give us your money and we'll give you this atomic pencil sharpener." If the statute is worded broadly enough, however, I wouldn't be surprised to find that it could cover misrepresentations made by a defendant who's soliciting contributions -- "Please give us your money and we won't give you anything but we'll use the money for our political goals."
It seems to be undisputed that the DNC, based in DC, solicited money, that it made representations in the course of doing so, and that at least some of the plaintiffs, although primarily Bernie backers, also contributed to the DNC. Without having even read the statute, let alone any regs interpreting it or decisions applying it, I'm not prepared to agree that the claim is crazy.
If you have read the statute, you would have seen that the allegation is stupid. Again, please read the actual petition and then tell us that there is merit. There is a clear definition of the term "consumer" in that statute that makes clear that this law does not apply to political donors. I would not have attempted to defend this claim without reading the actual statute. The petition cites this statute but does not provide the actual definition of consumer
I am not impressed with the videos being posted on JPR of the idiot lawyer who brought this suit. I understand that JPR posters love this idiot lawyer but I live in the real world and this particular lawyer is not impressive at all.
Again, I do not post on JPR for a reason but I am amused by the content on that site. I am not impressed with this lawsuit or the lawyer who brought it. Please read the petition before defending it.
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Sanders Supporters Get Their Day In Court Against Wasserman Schultz [View all]
TexasTowelie
Apr 2017
OP
Texas Towelie is not a troll. TT posts news stories from all different parts of
tblue37
Apr 2017
#134
You know the article says the lawsuit was filed before that revelation. Yes?
Hassin Bin Sober
Apr 2017
#95
Yes, however, the emails are what this Hillary hating website states is "evidence"
ehrnst
Apr 2017
#98
I'll be interested to see what evidence they present that those emails were acted upon by DNC.
ehrnst
Apr 2017
#28
The lawsuit was filed on June 28th, but the DNC email release came out on July 22nd.
PotatoChip
Apr 2017
#103
Umm, read the actual complaint filed, it explicitly cites the hacked documents.
DanTex
Apr 2017
#108
Actually, yes they were hacked. By groups affiliated with Russian intelligence.
DanTex
Apr 2017
#126
"You guys". LOL. Well, Russia did hack the DNC and Podesta accounts in order to help
DanTex
Apr 2017
#131
As long as economic issues specific to POC aren't dismissed as 'identity politics"
ehrnst
Apr 2017
#25
The divide is between what that person wants to believe and the facts presented.
stevenleser
Apr 2017
#80
If you have a point that relates to mine, state it. Since you didn't, I assume you don't have one.
stevenleser
Apr 2017
#114
here in California, we remember the AP story saying Hillary already won the night before the primary
yurbud
Apr 2017
#139
The hearing on the motion to dismiss was yesterday, so what's the verdict? I read through some of
seaglass
Apr 2017
#12
Generally decisions aren't made at the hearings themselves, most likely in a few weeks.
George II
Apr 2017
#14
I wasn't sure how long it would take. There are no news articles about this happening yesterday as
seaglass
Apr 2017
#35
The fact that there were no requirements that a candidate have a record of being elected as a Dem
ehrnst
Apr 2017
#29
Yeah. And I don't think I would have much trouble with putting in requirements like that.
Orsino
Apr 2017
#33
It will be interesting to see what the Outreach Director for the DNC has to say about this. (nt)
ehrnst
Apr 2017
#30
My hope is that the DNC doesn't argue that they have every right to favor one candidate
hughee99
Apr 2017
#34
When you say "favor" that means actions, not simply opinions. Important distinction.
ehrnst
Apr 2017
#42
Yes, I'm saying "favor" as in actions, not simply opinions. You can't regulate people's opinions.
hughee99
Apr 2017
#45
So then you have evidence of the "thumb on the scale?" Or that the DNC "argued that they were not
ehrnst
Apr 2017
#49
From this post, it appears you don't understand the implications of the argument.
hughee99
Apr 2017
#62
The DNC has argued already that they have no legal obligation to run a fair primary.
hughee99
Apr 2017
#66
So your contention is that the DNC did not argue that it's under no legal obligation
hughee99
Apr 2017
#75
The DNC can't use that defense on this motion. They are going ONLY with what hughee99 said.
Jim Lane
Apr 2017
#93
Do the pleadings still contain that crazy claim that the DC consumer protection statute applies
Gothmog
Apr 2017
#137
I don't know if that claim is in there. I also don't know whether it's crazy.
Jim Lane
Apr 2017
#141
Have you read the DC law and any interpretive regs and any court decisions applying it?
Jim Lane
Apr 2017
#145
Thanks for the link, but I'm not trying to give it the full-court press of legal research.
Jim Lane
Apr 2017
#147
The public exposure of the DNC's attitude toward its own rules is meaningful.
Jim Lane
Apr 2017
#160
I'm interested to see if there is evidence that "favoritism" amounted to "rigging"
ehrnst
Apr 2017
#102
Yes they did. You obviously did not read the article I provided. It's right there.
PotatoChip
Apr 2017
#113
LOL. The article you provided is alt-left garbage. Read the actual legal brief.
DanTex
Apr 2017
#118
That's why I'm waiting for a neutral source to summarize the claims and defenses
ehrnst
Apr 2017
#116
The other option is to read the legal briefs themselves. Here is the one filed by the defense.
DanTex
Apr 2017
#119
As I stated before - that's not an option because I am not trained as a lawyer or judge
ehrnst
Apr 2017
#123
Do you think it's a good idea to argue that you have the right to do things in a primary
hughee99
Apr 2017
#58
What's in the best interest of the clients isn't always just about winning the case.
hughee99
Apr 2017
#64
I think now is the time to do it. You're as far away from the next primary as you're going to get.
hughee99
Apr 2017
#78
because perpetual grievance against DWS is the most pressing issue in their lives nt
geek tragedy
Apr 2017
#73
Hence JPR where those who want to live their lives focused on non-existent grievances can congregate
stevenleser
Apr 2017
#81
This is why I say we move on work on electing people ...no hope to get the votes of people
Demsrule86
Apr 2017
#111