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118. No more BS insulting the Democratic Party.

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Hillary was right about the "Deplorables". [View all] kentuck Apr 2017 OP

Yes and she was right to call them out. nt fun n serious Apr 2017 #1

The "deplorable" comment was a tactical error which is why she tried to mitigate the damage... PoliticAverse Apr 2017 #5

The Kinsley Rule DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2017 #9

The "gaffe" was iniially saying "half" Tom Rinaldo Apr 2017 #13

My gut tells me she didn't lose many who would have truly considered voting for her anyways Norbert9 Apr 2017 #15

I don't think it was about losing votes I think it was about motivating people... PoliticAverse Apr 2017 #22

I see your point. But wasn't turnout mediocre as usual? Norbert9 Apr 2017 #35

ding ding ding...we have a winner! golfguru Apr 2017 #136

SOMEONE NEW Skittles Apr 2017 #164

Or someone the other Party has not spent 30 years attempting to define in the most negative way... kentuck Apr 2017 #166

yes, SOMEONE NEW Skittles Apr 2017 #168

I haven't seen anyone yet. leftofcool May 2017 #189

I wish JFK Jr was alive golfguru May 2017 #192

From what I can tell it was a much bigger deal when she stumbled on 9/11. StevieM Apr 2017 #43

Which is extremely ironic considering Trump on 9/11. Amimnoch Apr 2017 #175

Unless you have links to data showing otherwise, I would argue that KingCharlemagne Apr 2017 #19

You don't insult your opponents' supporters because it gives them motivation to actually... PoliticAverse Apr 2017 #25

Yes, for a whole year, JHan Apr 2017 #28

In a non-polarized electorate, I would agree with you. Is there any data KingCharlemagne Apr 2017 #37

I think that is something that would be hard to show by data. Perhaps the Clinton campaign... PoliticAverse Apr 2017 #62

As I wrote in the post right above yours, I think it was a small thing. Stumbling on 9/11 caused StevieM Apr 2017 #44

My sister took it personally and she is not a racist redstateblues Apr 2017 #60

Then why did she take it personally? Ninsianna Apr 2017 #132

It was poorly nuanced and unwise just like when she said... MrPurple Apr 2017 #134

We lost states that had gone Democratic cheapdate Apr 2017 #178

It was an honest one, and you might want to take a closer listen to her "apology". Ninsianna Apr 2017 #30

Yeah, truth is always a tactical error. nikibatts Apr 2017 #138

I agree with her 10000000%. MSNBC interviewed some of TRUMP's supporters this weekend trueblue2007 Apr 2017 #151

Probably not, BUT if she did Cosmocat May 2017 #187

Deplorable isn't the right word PJMcK Apr 2017 #2

Could not agree more amuse bouche Apr 2017 #158

Yes. She was right about most things. La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2017 #3

Every one that opposed trump safeinOhio Apr 2017 #4

She not only opposed Trump. She called out the people who supported him for Racial reasons fun n serious Apr 2017 #6

Yes, they are, but... William Seger Apr 2017 #18

In this case, it called for someone to point out their ugliness in an aggressive way. fun n serious Apr 2017 #21

Yes, but it could be done without personalizing it William Seger Apr 2017 #24

I agree with you. From a tactical point, it could have gone unsaid IMO. n/t RKP5637 Apr 2017 #27

But she unlike a lot of others, held people accountable for their racism La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2017 #10

Very true. fun n serious Apr 2017 #20

+1000 n/t jaysunb Apr 2017 #143

Even way back when... 2naSalit Apr 2017 #14

indeed La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2017 #23

They are enemies of liberty. roamer65 Apr 2017 #7

I urge everyone to use The Wizard Apr 2017 #156

and their 'president' is the lead deplorable spanone Apr 2017 #8

Unfortunately, being right does not always guarantee success... Wounded Bear Apr 2017 #11

That simple malaise Apr 2017 #12

These are the enemy that feed Trump world wide wally Apr 2017 #16

morons and knuckle draggers. Lil Missy Apr 2017 #17

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Yep! Some were then caught up in the lies of Trump believing him. All Trump voters IMO can't RKP5637 Apr 2017 #29

No they did not. Deplorable was the term attached to the racist, Nazi Ninsianna Apr 2017 #31

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It was a bold... tonedevil Apr 2017 #38

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Yes it gave many... tonedevil Apr 2017 #46

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Those assholes were never going to leave trump ever. Cha Apr 2017 #124

Yeah, Hillary told the truth about the racist asshole trump Cha Apr 2017 #123

This is not about telling the truth karynnj Apr 2017 #153

Do you think that his supporters are deplorable? hrmjustin Apr 2017 #42

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Less than half... tonedevil Apr 2017 #47

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You want... tonedevil Apr 2017 #55

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None of them objected to... tonedevil Apr 2017 #72

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Did you vote for Hillary in November? hrmjustin Apr 2017 #80

Are you saying... tonedevil Apr 2017 #83

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Speak for yourself... tonedevil Apr 2017 #97

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I could point to... tonedevil Apr 2017 #110

I'll remind you that Bernie voted for the crime bill. emulatorloo Apr 2017 #131

This is ridiculous! hrmjustin Apr 2017 #49

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Oh please! hrmjustin Apr 2017 #61

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They made a bad decision and I they have themselves to blame. hrmjustin Apr 2017 #68

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There is no evidence that Sanders would have won. hrmjustin Apr 2017 #71

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those same polls were wrong about last November so they don't have much credibility. hrmjustin Apr 2017 #74

Same polls showed HRC winning as well emulatorloo Apr 2017 #115

maybe she DID WIN Skittles Apr 2017 #169

Agreed! emulatorloo Apr 2017 #170

Are you saying that it was lapucelle Apr 2017 #87

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Refighting the last primary isn't going to help. irisblue Apr 2017 #101

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And no more Clinton bashing as well. Lets move forward and move that orange fool out of our irisblue Apr 2017 #104

Geez. People used to be better at this. Training standards must be going way downhill. Squinch Apr 2017 #112

Lol n/t emulatorloo Apr 2017 #117

No more BS insulting the Democratic Party. Cha Apr 2017 #118

Your memory is incorrect. Sanders supporter here. That 'theory' you're touting emulatorloo Apr 2017 #126

Hey Justin.. Cha Apr 2017 #139

Not surprised based on what he said. hrmjustin Apr 2017 #141

I know.. he gave himself Cha Apr 2017 #142

It wasn't Hillary's campaign that made people "alienated." It was divisive rhetoric smearing R B Garr Apr 2017 #51

It was specifically and distinctly made when she made it. The words matter. Ninsianna Apr 2017 #48

You are so right... tonedevil Apr 2017 #59

Thank you! Ninsianna Apr 2017 #116

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Voters whose top concern was economy voted for Clinton emulatorloo Apr 2017 #119

When you use "economic reasons" to cover for obvious and blatant misogyny Ninsianna Apr 2017 #130

MIRT took action emulatorloo Apr 2017 #135

What's MIRT? Ninsianna Apr 2017 #140

Malicious Intruder Response Team irisblue Apr 2017 #159

The troll patrol? Awesome. Ninsianna Apr 2017 #160

Welcome to DU! emulatorloo Apr 2017 #163

Thank you! Ninsianna Apr 2017 #173

There's no nice way to say Nazi The Wizard Apr 2017 #157

Of, By, and For the People... kentuck Apr 2017 #165

Hillary made the distinction quite clear. lapucelle Apr 2017 #78

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They are certainly worth being reminded lapucelle Apr 2017 #90

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Not so much... tonedevil Apr 2017 #34

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It wasn't ambiguous at all. Ninsianna Apr 2017 #52

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Because they were misogynistic. Ninsianna Apr 2017 #76

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Since her message is the same as Hillary's was, this is an odd assumption. Ninsianna Apr 2017 #82

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"Alot of people viewed that as betrayal" JHan Apr 2017 #86

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Did you vote for Hillary in November? hrmjustin Apr 2017 #92

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As a politician she is entitled to endorse whoever the fuck she wants especially.. JHan Apr 2017 #95

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If your argument is that we lost because Warren endorsed Clinton.. JHan Apr 2017 #103

You personally... tonedevil Apr 2017 #91

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++++++ JHan Apr 2017 #105

What kills me is the lack of this simple truth: JHan Apr 2017 #108

You seem to be... tonedevil Apr 2017 #113

everyone should be. JHan Apr 2017 #122

The last... tonedevil Apr 2017 #125

I don't know what your disagreement is, I'm no psychic. JHan Apr 2017 #128

... emulatorloo Apr 2017 #137

So, when she was a Republican, she was more progressive than Hillary Ninsianna Apr 2017 #114

You have no way of knowing what reception Warren would get until she runs for president. Demit Apr 2017 #120

it's not the same as Romney's statement. JHan Apr 2017 #57

Many of Trump's Deplorables are dyed-in-the-wool misogynists. oasis Apr 2017 #41

That's just not true in most cases. Trump tapped a group that usually don't vote, and some Squinch Apr 2017 #111

So? If they voted for trump they're freaking Deplorable Cha Apr 2017 #121

A failure of... tonedevil Apr 2017 #32

Most certainly she was correct. WellDarn Apr 2017 #39

A Democratic party... tonedevil Apr 2017 #50

That word "supporters" poses similar problems WellDarn Apr 2017 #79

Voting for does seem... tonedevil Apr 2017 #85

Yup rusty fender Apr 2017 #54

Yes Hillary Clinton was correct on this Gothmog Apr 2017 #58

Every day I wish that the ghosts of WWII veterans... Efilroft Sul Apr 2017 #70

Yes indeed Hillary was correct here.... LovingA2andMI Apr 2017 #106

But they are proud Americans whose vote is as good as yours. Kablooie Apr 2017 #107

And they are still... LovingA2andMI Apr 2017 #109

I don't even know what that's supposed to mean. Adrahil May 2017 #193

Right or wrong ...... BlueJac Apr 2017 #127

I would argue that E Warren lapucelle Apr 2017 #145

Warren is 3 times more articulate than Clinton golfguru Apr 2017 #171

They both have the ability lapucelle Apr 2017 #179

Yes she was Tiphill Apr 2017 #129

I agree Bradical79 Apr 2017 #133

I guess I am a little confused. WellDarn Apr 2017 #144

it means Trump's appeal crossed class lines among that demographic. JHan Apr 2017 #146

Totally agree WellDarn Apr 2017 #148

I think we are , thing is.. JHan Apr 2017 #155

Right or wrong, it was very very poor politics karynnj Apr 2017 #147

Correct BeyondGeography Apr 2017 #149

It was our version of Mitt Romney's "47%" comment. Initech Apr 2017 #161

It was not the same as Romneys 47% remark. JHan May 2017 #182

She was right 20 years ago about the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy. BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2017 #150

+1. dalton99a May 2017 #191

Doesn't matter anymore. Hindsight is 20/20 dreamland Apr 2017 #152

Of course she was. Freethinker65 Apr 2017 #154

She was right about a lot of things NastyRiffraff Apr 2017 #162

I will take a winner over being right golfguru Apr 2017 #174

Warren wasn't "on the stump" NastyRiffraff May 2017 #185

Sanders wins without DNC shenanigans golfguru May 2017 #194

There was nothing that the DNC could have done, or did do, to affect the outcome of the race. StevieM May 2017 #195

Wait just a minute golfguru May 2017 #196

The super delegates would have all shifted to Sanders if he had won the pledged delegates. StevieM May 2017 #202

+++++++++ JHan May 2017 #199

LOL!!!! NastyRiffraff May 2017 #200

yes she was and yes they are. NRaleighLiberal Apr 2017 #167

Its really too bad KTM Apr 2017 #172

Enough of the Casper Milktoast shit... NoMoreRepugs Apr 2017 #176

She should have doubled down Nevernose Apr 2017 #180

agree 100% NoMoreRepugs May 2017 #190

This Twitter thread has an interesting analysis of it: Saviolo Apr 2017 #177

Some insightful observations in there, thanks for sharing JHan May 2017 #197

Hillary should never have apologized... benpollard Apr 2017 #181

Exactly, the comment rallied the Dem base, radius777 May 2017 #183

It was , for me...the proudest moment. JHan May 2017 #198

I never understood the backing away from that remark lovemydogs May 2017 #184

unfortunately, not enough deplorables know they are deplorable mdbl May 2017 #186

a deplorable under every stone bora13 May 2017 #188

She damm sure was! nt jrthin May 2017 #201

The reason why people hated the "deplorables" line forjusticethunders May 2017 #203