Well Sen. Warren, Sen. Sanders, you're both on the record against Obama and Democratic Party. Nice

[LiberalLovinLug]

70. OMG, hyperbole much?

Equating Democrats and President Obama to the Trump party is an attack

In no way did Sen Warren say both parties were the same. No way near that.

"I think President Obama, like many others in both parties, talk about a set of big national statistics that look shiny and great but increasingly have giant blind spots"

What is so wrong about this statement? The GDP goes up! Great! But what if that is a result of plants roboticizing? or moving their workforce overseas? Or curbing union rights? Cutting benefits? So the ownership, CEO, executives and shareholders of those companies do better. What if that doesn't 'trickle down' to the workers?

"The Republicans have clearly thrown their lot in with the rich and the powerful, but so have a lot of Democrats."
Sen. Warren.

...More both siderism - more of the "If you aren't against capitalism you are against people" nonsense.


What part of THE Republicans and A LOT of Democrats don't you understand? Of course "a lot" is subjective and open to interpretation, but to myself, even one Blue Dog DINO is one too many.

Again, no mention of being "against capitalism". Being for a mixed system where capitalism and entrepreneurship is still encouraged in the private sector but things that work better under a socialist system to keep profits out and make it fair for everyone because it is too important ....like public education, environmental protection, and health care should be handled differently. That is not a radical idea. Heck, the US armed forces is the biggest socialist organization in the world. If every State, or county, had to contract some weapons manufacturer, or some uniform maker, or boot maker etc themselves it would cost even more to the taxpayer. By ordering uniforms say in bulk, on a national scale, it saves money. The same principal could be used for health care, like every other western democracy. Pool taxpayer resouces to get the best deal. Same with pharmaceuticals.

Both Obama and Hillary should have been fighting for Single Payer all along. Oh they'd never get anywhere you say? Not right away, but eventually the message would get through. The facts that it costs less, and yet covers everybody in the country from birth to death no matter how serious your condition, or preconditions, or your employment status, or where you live. On top of that how it benefits businesses that bid for international contracts, in this increasingly globalized world. (Other countries companies have the advantage of their own workers paying for their own basic healthcare through their taxes, so their bids can be more competitive) It does zero good to shrug your shoulders and say "it can't be done". And worse, fighting against those that say it can.