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muriel_volestrangler

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22. What would being active in any party to the left of the Democrats gain you?

Tue May 2, 2017, 09:29 AM

May 2017

If you are active in the Democratic Party, you have the chance to pull it to the left - supporting left-leaning candidates at any level, and possibly getting them into the general elections. Practically nowhere in the USA can parties to the left get elected (there's that socialist in Seattle, and I guess it would be feasible in one or two others cities and towns, but not many).

But Sanders is a good example; he actually had a chance of being the national candidate, and by working inside the Democratic party, he seems to have pulled policies a bit to the left.

You may find that activism other than campaigns for office is a better way of advancing your causes, but electorally, the Democrats are the only party near your positions that can get elected in the next decade.

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You have to live your life JustAnotherGen May 2017 #1

Voting for progressive taxation is not voting against your "financial interests" unless... hunter May 2017 #37

Ahhh JustAnotherGen May 2017 #57

I don't understand your reply. hunter May 2017 #79

So you can be a DU member, silly. n/t tazkcmo May 2017 #2

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I thought JustAnotherGen May 2017 #4

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You don't have to be a member of the Democratic party to support Democrats. seaglass May 2017 #5

+1000 (nt) ehrnst May 2017 #67

Gee, I noticed that you said you didn't vote for Hillary. If you have to ask this question, then still_one May 2017 #6

Voting for Hillary in the GE is a requirement for membership at this website. It would be SHOCKING seaglass May 2017 #9

Really, and you aren't shocked by an OP essentially saying there is no difference between still_one May 2017 #11

still_one - I was being sarcastic - I know of two DU posters who wrote in Bernie in the GE. They seaglass May 2017 #12

sorry. I can understand someone being against the direction of the party, but not recognizing the still_one May 2017 #13

Agreed. Makes no sense at all. This is not the way to have a conversation about Democratic party seaglass May 2017 #16

Agreed as well Justice May 2017 #72

I think I know who you're talking about but they live in solid blue states Arazi May 2017 #43

I have no idea if we are talking about the same people. I do not believe there has been any seaglass May 2017 #80

They didn't make a mistake. Not at all imo Arazi May 2017 #92

The OP voted for Hillary in the GE, so in the end s/he did the right thing and as far as I'm seaglass May 2017 #106

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I think you missed the word "primary". Barack_America May 2017 #10

Didn't know it was a requirement - but yes, I did vote for Hillary ihaveaquestion May 2017 #31

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No this is not a serious question. betsuni May 2017 #7

Repeal of Glass-Steegall ihaveaquestion May 2017 #32

You mean Glass-Steagall? betsuni May 2017 #44

I'm sure that's what was meant. Why the ridicule over spelling? KPN May 2017 #91

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I call Bull.. Your premise is false. Cha May 2017 #14

I disagree TNLib May 2017 #17

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I have a question, are you going to respond to anybody? snooper2 May 2017 #18

Good question Cha May 2017 #19

perhaps the OP needs to be "convinced" still_one May 2017 #21

soon enough for you - was driving to work if you must know ihaveaquestion May 2017 #30

Why didn't Bernie run against Bill for President? R B Garr May 2017 #20

Neither welfare reform or repeal of Glass-Steegall was necessary for economic recovery ihaveaquestion May 2017 #39

You make good points. I and others here agree with you. KPN May 2017 #94

Answer this: R B Garr May 2017 #98

Yeah, 'cause the purity shit based on LIES got us Cha May 2017 #61

+1, looking at the narrow focus of the critique R B Garr May 2017 #99

What would being active in any party to the left of the Democrats gain you? muriel_volestrangler May 2017 #22

Thank You for the serious answer ihaveaquestion May 2017 #40

If you support Unions, then you have your answer.... Adrahil May 2017 #23

Sorry, but I've seen only lackluster support of unions by democrats in office ihaveaquestion May 2017 #33

You didn't read what I wrote, didya? NT Adrahil May 2017 #60

I did, but you didn't address joining the dem party. ihaveaquestion May 2017 #82

I apparently have to spell it out.... Adrahil May 2017 #96

How many of your statements start out with "I?" Starry Messenger May 2017 #24

Party Support takes many forms... each stems from a different need/motivation.. MedusaX May 2017 #25

Thank You for your thoughtful response! ihaveaquestion May 2017 #36

So are you happy that trump won? Gothmog May 2017 #26

I voted for Hillary ihaveaquestion May 2017 #34

Go form a new party and guarantee that Trump is re-elected and we lose the SCOTUS for generation Gothmog May 2017 #38

".. moved to the center right.." You obviously haven't been Cha May 2017 #27

Exactly correct. Justice May 2017 #75

You shouldn't. Orsino May 2017 #28

If you oppose Trump, you choose the only option to replace him with somebody much better. Doodley May 2017 #29

of course! ihaveaquestion May 2017 #35

The party isn't perfect by any means Proud Liberal Dem May 2017 #41

I do prefer Hillary - I voted for her. ihaveaquestion May 2017 #48

I'm not exactly sure I understand Proud Liberal Dem May 2017 #54

be whatever it is you want to be JI7 May 2017 #42

You shouldn't if you don't like it ismnotwasm May 2017 #45

I get your point 100% and would answer that Bernie Sanders has shown a path forward Arazi May 2017 #46

It's been bad around here lately and I've asked myself the same question Warpy May 2017 #47

... betsuni May 2017 #52

.. Cha May 2017 #56

"I'm going to stay here and be an irritant" LOL betsuni May 2017 #58

Oh really.. I couldn't have guessed. Cha May 2017 #59

Thanks for the best reason I've seen - to be spiteful and irritating - love it! ihaveaquestion May 2017 #55

It actually goes against my inclination to be that way Warpy May 2017 #71

Fight the Republicans first treestar May 2017 #78

"spiteful and irritating". Well, well. Apparently Bush R B Garr May 2017 #105

So you are sticking with the party out of pure spite brer cat May 2017 #64

Right. Cha May 2017 #65

Have you missed the level of trolling here over the past months? Warpy May 2017 #70

If the level of trolling on an internet message board brer cat May 2017 #81

There's enough to make me want to irritate the trolls Warpy May 2017 #85

I read your post. brer cat May 2017 #87

DU isn't the Democratic Party ismnotwasm May 2017 #74

I know you were not specifically speaking to me, but thank you for this post, Warpy. PotatoChip May 2017 #114

You have two choices... brooklynite May 2017 #49

You are just avoiding backing a choice, the GOP doesn't not believe in a helping government, CK_John May 2017 #50

LOL BannonsLiver May 2017 #51

As long as the huge majority of elections are binary MineralMan May 2017 #53

Agreed Justice May 2017 #73

Best answer yet ismnotwasm May 2017 #77

that any Democrat needs to ask this question means detractors have been very successful. JHan May 2017 #63

Outstanding, JHan! brer cat May 2017 #68

Dayum! ismnotwasm May 2017 #84

I am about where you are as far as that far left treestar May 2017 #66

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Simple Afromania May 2017 #83

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Don't be one then! kimbutgar May 2017 #90

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+1, mind was totally made up--hence the narrow focus R B Garr May 2017 #100

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"Center-right"? LUL fail..... stonecutter357 May 2017 #103

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Almost all good good policy in the last 50-100 years is thanks to the Democratic Party. DanTex May 2017 #110

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Because the Democrats, flawed as they are, operate in a greater Reality. haele May 2017 #116

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