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Atman

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60. I'm very sorry you feel that way. I was replying directly to your comments.

Tue May 2, 2017, 03:29 PM

May 2017

You have a kind and loving Catholic family. That's cool. I did, too. And the other half were Protestant. Your post addressed how these were all very nice people, they just couldn't abide abortion. So...what are you saying? They voted for Trump dismantling the entire country because their personal religious beliefs don't accept a tenet which is not even mentioned in their magic...er, the bible?

Understand me clearly, please; I've been Catholic. I attended Catholic school briefly. Mom was Protestant, so I attended Protestant churches, too. Patriarchal family was Boston Irish Catholic. I KNOW me some religion! My very first "real" graphic design job back then was to design a fancy program for the Lutheran Church. I'm not just some religious hater, I've been there, done that, got the knee pads.

I'm thinking you don't really know what your concern is about. Your wonderful loving family is totally full of shit, and you don't quite know how to express it to them because you love them. But our party is totally off the rails in addressing your concerns.

I get that. I think lots of us get that. Welcome to the club.

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I fuckin care ... why don't you? stonecutter357 Apr 2017 #16

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Because Bernie said........................... guillaumeb Apr 2017 #31

K&R! stonecutter357 Apr 2017 #17

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I don't know, do you? YoungDemCA May 2017 #65

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So pro-corporate is OK? FairWinds Apr 2017 #33

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I own my body. First and foremost. If someone is advocating taking that away from me, then Squinch Apr 2017 #39

Dear Squinch . . FairWinds Apr 2017 #45

I can't tell you what to do. If she did not support my right to my ownership of my body, she would Squinch Apr 2017 #46

What if they were pro-slavery? athena Apr 2017 #51

Perfect. This exactly. Squinch Apr 2017 #54

I support pro-choice and am an atheist. LakeArenal Apr 2017 #23

They don't have to have an abortion. boston bean Apr 2017 #25

They aren't asking for an abortion and they are not asking for anyone to give up anything.. LakeArenal Apr 2017 #28

If they are not asking for anyone to give up anything Mariana Apr 2017 #29

Um. No. Anyone can vote for a democrat. boston bean Apr 2017 #30

This is kind of bullshit. No one is saying they have to "support abortion." We are saying they Squinch Apr 2017 #47

See this is exactly the problem for them and a little for me... LakeArenal Apr 2017 #49

I wasn't saying their beliefs were bullshit. I was saying their argument against choice Squinch Apr 2017 #50

We're not talking about them voting Repugnant.. LakeArenal Apr 2017 #52

Gracious. You seem to be certain that I am fighting you when I am doing no such thing. Squinch Apr 2017 #53

That is a terrific post from start to finish Orrex May 2017 #56

Well, thank you. But I don't think the poster I was talking to felt that way about it. Squinch May 2017 #67

I am not willing to give up my right to own my body because of them. I get what you are saying Squinch Apr 2017 #38

Then help to educate them and/or start their own Religious Party. Atman May 2017 #57

That is a very rude response. LakeArenal May 2017 #59

I'm very sorry you feel that way. I was replying directly to your comments. Atman May 2017 #60

No, I have come to the conclusion that other people are full of shit, LakeArenal May 2017 #61

Okay, speaking of "issues." Atman May 2017 #62

Ha ha ha LakeArenal May 2017 #63

Seek professional help. Atman May 2017 #66

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Yes we need to flip every office to our values. And women's rights to their own bodies Squinch Apr 2017 #37

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