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In reply to the discussion: Which state will threaten to secede first [View all]FarCenter
(19,429 posts)235. Forced Emigration: Historic Remedy for British Criminal Activity
For centuries, Great Britain has attempted to resolve its criminal problem by forcibly transporting miscreants to distant parts of the realm. Most of us are aware that Australia and the surrounding Australasian islands served as dumping grounds for Britain's outcasts; however, the fact that the British previously employed North America and the Caribbean as penal colonies is less widely known. Utilizing the abundance of sources generated in England, Ireland, Scotland, and Wales during the "transportation" process can help genealogists to trace their roots back to the Mother Country. Family historians have indexed and published many of these records.
From the 17th through 19th centuries, the British government transported convicted felons to many parts of the world. Some of the sentences allowed convicts to escape the death penalty; while on the other hand, criminals were often forcibly expelled from the British Isles for lesser infractions, such as repeated theft. Prior to the Revolutionary War, Maryland, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, and Georgia received the products of this justice system. The West Indies also served as a major destination. From the late 18th century onward, Australasia became the targeted area and today many living Australians can trace their roots back to these individuals.
The convicts usually served 7- or 14-year labor sentences and then were granted the freedom to stay in their new home, or return to their lands of nativity. Many never went back and remained in the new lands. Australians refer to convict immigrants as "assisted immigrants" and non-convict immigrants as "unassisted immigrants." A good place to begin your study on this topic is the Web site The International Centre for Convict Studies, available at http://iccs.arts.utas.edu.au/index.html.
From the 17th through 19th centuries, the British government transported convicted felons to many parts of the world. Some of the sentences allowed convicts to escape the death penalty; while on the other hand, criminals were often forcibly expelled from the British Isles for lesser infractions, such as repeated theft. Prior to the Revolutionary War, Maryland, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, and Georgia received the products of this justice system. The West Indies also served as a major destination. From the late 18th century onward, Australasia became the targeted area and today many living Australians can trace their roots back to these individuals.
The convicts usually served 7- or 14-year labor sentences and then were granted the freedom to stay in their new home, or return to their lands of nativity. Many never went back and remained in the new lands. Australians refer to convict immigrants as "assisted immigrants" and non-convict immigrants as "unassisted immigrants." A good place to begin your study on this topic is the Web site The International Centre for Convict Studies, available at http://iccs.arts.utas.edu.au/index.html.
http://www.genealogytoday.com/articles/reader.mv?ID=471
I didn't mention Georgia and the Carolinas previously, because their history as convict destinations is well known. Kentucky, Tennessee, Alabama, and Mississippi, as well as southern states farther west were largely populated by emigrants from the southern Atlantic seaboard.
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Too bad we couldn't get out before our tax dollars went to bail out a bunch of yankee
4th law of robotics
Jul 2012
#230
President Kennedy was assasinated while being driven around Dealy Plaza. I had to much confidence
lonestarnot
Jul 2012
#221
How did you reach the conclussion I was advocating throwing Texas out of the United States? Have
lonestarnot
Jul 2012
#236
Are you saying you believe President Kennedy was assassinated by Lee Harvey Oswald
man4allcats
Jul 2012
#227
Neither. People on this thread were discussing dissolution of the U.S. and
lonestarnot
Jul 2012
#237
Let Texas secede and then tell Mexico we wouldn't mind if they invaded.
Hassin Bin Sober
Jun 2012
#102
The red states have always been in the way and creating all of the dissension in
RKP5637
Jun 2012
#11
I think so, I really think that has a lot to do with it, especially since for eons
RKP5637
Jun 2012
#42
Yyyeeee Hhhaaa! "... absolute _____________ relativists..." THIS!!! is the wheel upon which
patrice
Jul 2012
#255
Wow. I wasn't even aware of that "absolute relativist" oxymoron until you spotted it.
Jackpine Radical
Jul 2012
#260
There are many of us in Red States who are trying to change the status quo.
unapatriciated
Jun 2012
#58
well, that's one of the most foolish things i've seen you post, and that's saying something.
dionysus
Jun 2012
#25
As a Minnesotan, I hear you. It's crazy-making and every time I hear a red-state governor complain,
Brickbat
Jun 2012
#51
We'd have been better off winning the War of 1812 and then letting the South secede
FarCenter
Jun 2012
#60
Wow, that's pretty brutal. One might think that you are trying to stir up some
rhett o rick
Jun 2012
#43
How about all those "homeowners" in CA, AZ, NV, and FL that took out mortgages they couldn't afford
FarCenter
Jun 2012
#76
goodness... it's as if some are innocent and naive enough to actually believe that
LanternWaste
Jul 2012
#144
I used to believe exactly as you do. But then yesterday I read a very eloquent post
coalition_unwilling
Jul 2012
#164
If McCrory wins the Gov race in November, North Carolina will probably...
WorseBeforeBetter
Jun 2012
#15
I was thinking that, but decided that a BORDER state is more likely, e.g. all the guns flowing thru
patrice
Jul 2012
#157
Yes but they would able to compete with China for low wage jobs. The Repukes
rhett o rick
Jun 2012
#44
The authoritarians are near Grand Rapids in the southwest part of the state.
amandabeech
Jul 2012
#140
Let them secede just make make the response unequivocal for treason this time.
gordianot
Jun 2012
#40
Secession is one of those things Republicans know they can use to rile up the base.
randome
Jun 2012
#67
go ahead secede. We have a lot more combat vets these days to fight another war.
pasto76
Jun 2012
#73
Rhode Island was the first of the 13 original colonies to declare independence from British rule
lunasun
Jun 2012
#95
Interesting - One general underlying them in a lot of responses come from Blue Staters
rufus dog
Jun 2012
#89
I sincerely doubt even Conservatives are naive enough to follow a doofus like Perry into battle.
randome
Jun 2012
#101
California & Oregon the next time the republicans are let into power, They'll drag
Egalitarian Thug
Jun 2012
#119
I want Canada to adopt Washington and call it Baja British Columbia.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Jul 2012
#125
If it ever happened again, my money would be on Mississippi or West Virginia.....
AverageJoe90
Jul 2012
#150
give the right wing media more time... but yeah, their agenda is AGAINST our country
fascisthunter
Jul 2012
#200
Whichever state is first, odds are they'll inadvertently threaten to "succeed"
DisgustipatedinCA
Jul 2012
#207