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In reply to the discussion: I know this is going to be unpopular but I am friends with and I understand many Trump supporters [View all]Ninsianna
(1,354 posts)sexism, misogyny and decided that it was not a deal breaker. They were crazy to support Trump, just from watching him for 5 minutes, even if they actively blocked out any news.
Not paying attention to what was going on and what was happening to their fellow Americans at these rallies and etc. is inexcusable. The direction the country was going was away from the fuck up the Republicans made of it, that endangered their kids, and was the reason they were deployed in the first place, away from their families.
They are people who voted for a bigot and a sexist pig, people who enable and turn a willing blind eye to such things are not off the hook.
Are they finally figuring out that the status quo they voted in is not just harming the "other" but themselves?
Then go change their minds, but we're not going to pretend that bigotry, racism, and those who think denying women basic human rights is somehow going to be tolerated, that isn't the change anyone is looking for.
I don't believe that issue by issue they agree with us, if they're shallow enough to be bothered by labels created by people who are actively working against them and they're too damned lazy to realize this, we don't need to "open up" to welcome the poor dears who choose to be willfully stupid.
They are welcome to join us, most of us will not be jumping down their throats calling them Russian trolls, but we don't need to gloss over what they actively chose, nor do we need to remake who we are and betray our basic principles to cater to these people.
Especially not if it means betraying who we are, and the core of our beliefs and the backbone of our party. This is our fight, and if they truly care about these issues, they don't need coddling or us pretending they didn't do what they did, they can deal with their personal issues about labels and fight with us.
Just don't expect us to pretend that they were not aiding and abetting the deplorables. if misogyny, racism, and the Nazis didn't turn them off, they've earned that label, even if they don't like it.