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Wed May 3, 2017, 03:03 PM

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Warning: Any Candidate Considering Running for President as a Democrat in 2020 [View all] MineralMan May 2017 OP

Is deviating from any of Obama's positions "criticism?" HopeAgain May 2017 #1

Criticism is Criticism. MineralMan May 2017 #2

I've seen a lot of mis-characterizing of what Warren and Sanders have said as direct criticism. HopeAgain May 2017 #9

I did not mention either Warren or Sanders. MineralMan May 2017 #12

So this is just abstract discussion? HopeAgain May 2017 #13

My original post is not abstract in any way. MineralMan May 2017 #17

Exactly, nobody has announced... HopeAgain May 2017 #27

well as you know druidity33 May 2017 #89

Because so many potential Candidates consult you before running? zipplewrath May 2017 #50

What's your point? MineralMan May 2017 #51

That's not what you said zipplewrath May 2017 #55

Many people on DU offer advice to candidates and potential MineralMan May 2017 #58

Yes, but they have a "real" audience zipplewrath May 2017 #61

Is deviating from any of Sanders' and Warren's positions "criticism"? frazzled May 2017 #29

Thank you JustAnotherGen May 2017 #31

Deviate away, it doesn't bother me... HopeAgain May 2017 #35

Your post indicates otherwise frazzled May 2017 #39

How so? HopeAgain May 2017 #45

Read them again frazzled May 2017 #47

Umm no, you re-ead HopeAgain May 2017 #57

Funny how that works workinclasszero May 2017 #44

Long Time DU Member Here Cheviteau May 2017 #80

Thanks. I never mind defending my own statements. MineralMan May 2017 #81

When did you ever hear Republicans criticizing Ronald Reagan? pnwmom May 2017 #85

I don't think they should be talking about Obama at all Phoenix61 May 2017 #3

Exactly. Attacking a popular former President MineralMan May 2017 #5

This is just bizarre Boomer May 2017 #74

You must have a pretty short memory. n/t pnwmom May 2017 #86

Yup, that's some 'true true' right there. nt. druidity33 May 2017 #90

Agreed. But... rpannier May 2017 #97

My opinion is different. nt Kirkwood May 2017 #4

Well, thanks for letting me know. MineralMan May 2017 #7

Spot on! Hope all the potential candidate pay heed. brush May 2017 #6

I hope so, too. MineralMan May 2017 #8

Good post. athena May 2017 #10

Thank you! MineralMan May 2017 #11

Cough (Lieberman) cough. charlyvi May 2017 #25

I remember 2014 when so many Dems thought it was a good strategy to run against world wide wally May 2017 #14

Yes, that did happen. MineralMan May 2017 #19

I remember this in 2000 too, when Gore ran away from Clinton. yardwork May 2017 #43

Who alienated that large group of voters who strongly supported Barack Obama as President? progressoid May 2017 #15

Not smart to do it though by alienating rock solid Dem voters in our base brush May 2017 #16

Rock solid Dem voters in our base are going to vote for the Democrat regardless. progressoid May 2017 #22

In the general election yes. But candidates who attack Obama have to run the primary gauntlet. brush May 2017 #38

I'm not sure whether Warren is running at all. MineralMan May 2017 #20

Ah, so its a coincidence you posted this at the same time DU has the vapors about Warren's comment progressoid May 2017 #28

There are no coincidences. MineralMan May 2017 #30

Thank you for confirming my statement. progressoid May 2017 #40

Why does that matter? MineralMan May 2017 #42

You say you wanted to start a discussion but "What others write is not relevant, really, to me." progressoid May 2017 #60

Some DUers have the vapors a lot. We're supposed to post only on non-vapor days? LakeArenal May 2017 #53

It's also a way of shifting blame for the partisan gridlock over the past 8 years.. JHan May 2017 #18

Indeed. We all saw the results of people campaigning against Obama MineralMan May 2017 #21

Agreed. And i'll add that sometimes the criticism is sincere.. JHan May 2017 #67

Sadly, we seem to forget who the real enemy is. MineralMan May 2017 #68

K&R denbot May 2017 #23

KnR Hekate May 2017 #24

Who in their right mind criticizes President Obama Proud Liberal Dem May 2017 #26

Exactly. Thanks. MineralMan May 2017 #32

Bullshit! Exilednight May 2017 #33

Well, that's concise. MineralMan May 2017 #36

Bullshit again. Obama criticised Bill Clinton during the 2008 primary on a regular basis. Exilednight May 2017 #79

2008 is not 2017 JHan May 2017 #82

There's a lot that is factually wrong. Exilednight May 2017 #83

No my premise is absolutely on point: JHan May 2017 #87

You're not even close to being on point. Exilednight May 2017 #88

And you're avoiding my salient point.. JHan May 2017 #91

There's nothing to avoid. you're not staying anything that hasn't been Exilednight May 2017 #93

and bad policy is nothing new.. JHan May 2017 #95

+1 Blue_Tires May 2017 #34

I hope this post is directed toward MojoWrkn May 2017 #37

It is directed at neither. There are no declared candidates for 2020. MineralMan May 2017 #41

In 2020, there will be so much to criticize #45 about... mwooldri May 2017 #46

Of course - that's just simple common sense Mountain Mule May 2017 #48

Who are you blaming? zipplewrath May 2017 #49

Must I blame someone to suggest campaign strategies? MineralMan May 2017 #54

But you did zipplewrath May 2017 #56

K&R 2naSalit May 2017 #52

They should think seriously about if their tax returns are ready for prime time as well. (nt) ehrnst May 2017 #59

And their nannys, and their email servers... zipplewrath May 2017 #62

Absolutely. MineralMan May 2017 #63

I agree with your opinion on this treestar May 2017 #64

Gawd, yes. I remember 2014 and candidate, Allison Grimes.... Grins May 2017 #65

Very good example, indeed! MineralMan May 2017 #66

This message was self-deleted by its author StevieM May 2017 #92

There really is nothing wrong than taking a principled stand on issues that differ with other Dems Gore1FL May 2017 #69

Here's the thing: Candidates for President should be about MineralMan May 2017 #70

There is nothing wrong with contrasting oneself with former presidents when running for the office. Gore1FL May 2017 #71

appropriate and respectful criticism should never be shied away from because of pandering. People JCanete May 2017 #72

Isn't there a fine line to be drawn here though? LiberalLovinLug May 2017 #73

I think the criticism of his speaking fees was beyond that line. (nt) ehrnst May 2017 #75

I agree LiberalLovinLug May 2017 #76

If you take a position on an issue opposite to that of Obama, does that count as "criticism"? n/t PoliticAverse May 2017 #77

Not necessarily. As long as you stick to that issue, but don't trash Obama MineralMan May 2017 #78

Also it'd be a great idea to not start by splitting the Party in half. NightWatcher May 2017 #84

Exactly. Sparkly May 2017 #94

While I think you're right in many cases, I would disagree in some rpannier May 2017 #96

My opinion orangecrush May 2017 #98

Read every post over a late breakfast... NoMoreRepugs May 2017 #99