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In reply to the discussion: "Elizabeth Warren says Obama doesn't understand 'lived experience of most Americans.'" [View all]
PA Democrat
(13,427 posts)164. Latest data from Democratic Party strategists published May 1
A group of top Democratic Party strategists have used new data about last year’s presidential election to reach a startling conclusion about why Hillary Clinton lost. Now they just need to convince the rest of the party they’re right.
Many Democrats have a shorthand explanation for Clinton’s defeat: Her base didn’t turn out, Donald Trump’s did and the difference was too much to overcome.
But new information shows that Clinton had a much bigger problem with voters who had supported President Barack Obama in 2012 but backed Trump four years later.
Those Obama-Trump voters effectively accounted for more than two-thirds of the reason Clinton lost, according to Matt Canter, a senior vice president of the Democratic political firm Global Strategy Group. In his group’s analysis, about 70 percent of Clinton’s failure to reach Obama’s vote total in 2012 was because she lost these voters.
Many Democrats have a shorthand explanation for Clinton’s defeat: Her base didn’t turn out, Donald Trump’s did and the difference was too much to overcome.
But new information shows that Clinton had a much bigger problem with voters who had supported President Barack Obama in 2012 but backed Trump four years later.
Those Obama-Trump voters effectively accounted for more than two-thirds of the reason Clinton lost, according to Matt Canter, a senior vice president of the Democratic political firm Global Strategy Group. In his group’s analysis, about 70 percent of Clinton’s failure to reach Obama’s vote total in 2012 was because she lost these voters.
http://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/nation-politics/report-obama-turned-trump-voters-cost-clinton-election/
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"Elizabeth Warren says Obama doesn't understand 'lived experience of most Americans.'" [View all]
pnwmom
May 2017
OP
This is bound to help her on the talk show circuit while she hawks her book. Shame on you EW. nt
Tarheel_Dem
May 2017
#2
Her book wholeheartedly celebrates Dem values and criticizes the GOP and rightfully so....
bettyellen
May 2017
#128
Did she try to plug her book tour by trying to pick a fight with Barack Obama?
Tarheel_Dem
May 2017
#138
No, she didnt. My position on Bernie might have to include Warren soon.
Eliot Rosewater
May 2017
#151
I can tell you this...she has disqualified herself from competing in a Dem primary, AFAIC. This....
Tarheel_Dem
May 2017
#153
I cant figure out if they are on you know who's Russian payroll or just idiots
Eliot Rosewater
May 2017
#166
President Obama was not born rich and went to college on student loans like the rest of us...her
Demsrule86
May 2017
#116
I would vote for her in a New York minute for Massachusetts senator. For president, no.
DemocratSinceBirth
May 2017
#106
Why does she think he has a giant blind spot? Doesn't she understand that he had to make a huge push
pnwmom
May 2017
#12
Are you saying you can't explain your point without violating forum rules?
stevenleser
May 2017
#173
yeah, that was my thought after reading too. Come on people. I get that these are sensitive topics
JCanete
May 2017
#15
Isn't she saying that politicians like Obama have giant blind spots when they talk about
betsuni
May 2017
#18
You are darn right he understands pnwnom, and that is why every time those statistics were
still_one
May 2017
#80
Except it ignores the very fact the President Obama, almost everytime those statistics were
still_one
May 2017
#79
I think her point is simply that economic statistics don't always tell the whole story
oberliner
May 2017
#87
I agree Obe, that is her point, but I don't agree with her assessment that President Obama has a
still_one
May 2017
#108
Same thing. She calle out Obama and basically said the partys' are the same.
Demsrule86
May 2017
#118
Now that Gillibrand has dropped out, Warren's 2020 win seems to be that much more secure
HoneyBadger
May 2017
#17
The OP first lies about what Elizabeth Warren actually said and then calls her a racist.
redgreenandblue
May 2017
#25
No game. Saying he had had a huge blind spot is JUST as unfair, as I've already explained. nt
pnwmom
May 2017
#43
That's what I want to know. Why is she criticizing Obama as being out of touch? Of course
pnwmom
May 2017
#57
It looks like the "is it because he is black?" line was now edited out.
redgreenandblue
May 2017
#89
"The ones who believe only racists have the right to criticize ...Obama" WTF?
bettyellen
May 2017
#190
You get that this board is not a "free speech zone" for racists or even fans of the GOP....
bettyellen
May 2017
#193
You and I both agreed to OUR community standards, which have nothing to do with other communities-
bettyellen
May 2017
#197
People raise objections to policies and statements Dems make all the time here. Let's not pretend
bettyellen
May 2017
#208
She's making it harder for good Democrats to be elected when she disparages what Obama
pnwmom
May 2017
#59
She did and she party's were the same basically...she is not going to be the presidential candidat
Demsrule86
May 2017
#120
It's blatantly wrong to say that her claim that he had a giant blind spot to the
pnwmom
May 2017
#127
She said Obama had a blind spot for people's real lived experience. And that is false and unfair.
pnwmom
May 2017
#85
"And they voted for Obama twice." But then millions of Obama voters voted for Trump.
PA Democrat
May 2017
#58
That is the million dollar question. How DO we battle the other side when the MSM
pnwmom
May 2017
#70
Part of it is not expecting them to vote for someone they've already decided they don't like
BeyondGeography
May 2017
#124
That can be said of the majority of people who vote Republican in any Presidential election
Tom Rinaldo
May 2017
#105
She said Obama had a blind spot for people's real lived experience. And she based that criticism on
pnwmom
May 2017
#82
I'd advise people to read what she actually said, and not just the Independent's version
Kentonio
May 2017
#88
She should walk around the Obama's neighborhood in Chicago and maybe think again
lunasun
May 2017
#91
Can you remind me what was the question that evoked that response in the interview?
jberryhill
May 2017
#92
yes millions of americans left behind, including those who did not vote for Trump.
JHan
May 2017
#177
No.... it's pretty accurate, unfortunately. Hey she wants clicks as much as any politician.
bettyellen
May 2017
#142
The 'lived' experience? 'Left behind' ? 'Kicked in the teeth' ? 'Blind spot' ? 'Most Americans' ?
MedusaX
May 2017
#123
THIS- she has bought the RW frame and is selling it. And pundits will tease out the BO criticism and
bettyellen
May 2017
#136
We need to write to her as politely as possible and remind her of what you just wrote...
Hekate
May 2017
#150
Honestly, I seriously doubt Elizabeth Warren would EVER say something like this.
PatrickforO
May 2017
#155