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karynnj

(60,867 posts)
48. Just as I suspect that Comey saying this is playing a verbal game of "hot potato",
Thu May 4, 2017, 11:41 AM
May 2017

so was this. In fact, this is typical Bill Clinton. Here, he is "said" to have warned people to do more in the Midwest, but do not forget that he validated comments against Obamacare in Michigan - listen to the clip here and you will hear Clinton giving a speech that works better for a change candidate, not HRC running, for the most part on Obama's legacy - http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/04/politics/bill-clinton-obamacare-craziest-thing/

Note that Clinton was a loose cannon in 2008 - possibly being a factor in Kennedy joining Kerry in supporting Obama - with close to racist comments after the SC loss. He also famously defended HRC's Bosnia comments - after that furor died down, explaining HRC was old and tired from campaigning - http://www.cbsnews.com/news/bill-resurrects-hillarys-bosnia-blunder/

In 2004, as he recovered from heart surgery, several close Clinton allies all spoke of his frustration with Kerry in September -- that he should not speak of terrorism, where Kerry was among the first to publicly speak of the danger back in the 1990s, or Iraq, but should speak on the domestic issues. In fact, Kerry's numbers, which were terrible after the media condoned all the attacks and purple heart bandaids at the Republican convention, ROSE as he gave a speech on Iraq at NYU, a speech on non state terrorism at the University of Pennsylvania, and was amazing in the first (foreign policy) debate. Not to mention, the timing of his book tour - summer 2004 -- when the most sought after answer was "because I could" resurrected a topic that was not helpful and he attacked the "left" that questioned the Iraq war itself or how it was being fought. Yes, I KNOW he campaigned after surgery in Philadelphia ... but IMO, he did more harm than help as the source of all the negative comments that were in every newspaper I read.

In 2000, Gore had a dilemma. He was part of Clinton/Gore and the administration did many successful things, but the immediate two years were colored by the impeachment hearings. I doubt I was the only mother of middle school girls who was not happy with the conversations in the car pools I drove! That a man who was known to the media as a mean drunk until he was 40 was able to run on bringing honor and dignity back to the White House could not have happened without this.

This really means that Clinton's vaunted political genius rests with winning the Presidency against a President at 39% and re-election against a pathetic opponent (Dole, a Senate hatchet man).

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That is hogwash liberal N proud May 2017 #1
Didn't read the full article, right? DonViejo May 2017 #3
Why read hogwash? Comey is trying to justify his criminal actions. Hatch Act violation. L. Coyote May 2017 #13
Get back to me after you've read the full article. DonViejo May 2017 #16
Obviously not. It cant be disputed that Bill Clinton cost Hillary the election 4 the reasons stated InAbLuEsTaTe May 2017 #38
I read the whole article and it sheds zero light on why this was a problem for Comey. LisaM May 2017 #52
Appears the WaPo needs to provide their columnists with an emoticon similar to the one DonViejo May 2017 #53
Or, he's just not a good writer. LisaM May 2017 #55
no, Bill should have known better than pulling that stunt snooper2 May 2017 #15
No it was desperate Jacquette May 2017 #28
It's possible it could have been the media .. or the social media karynnj May 2017 #44
Don't get it twisted. Comey is the reason Hillary lost. He alone sent the Oct. letter brush May 2017 #56
What stunt? LisaM May 2017 #57
It was non-stop on radio/tv everywhere for weeks snooper2 May 2017 #59
So, again, what exactly did he do wrong? LisaM May 2017 #63
The optics were bad HoneyBadger May 2017 #2
+1 -nt CrispyQ May 2017 #51
No logic: 1st Comey decided NOT to charge Hillary-But just B/4 election he decided URGENT to tell riversedge May 2017 #4
If he was out to get her, Bill certainly made his job easier BeyondGeography May 2017 #9
No itcfish May 2017 #22
Why would anyone normalize a person in his position "being out to get" a candidate for president? bettyellen May 2017 #50
this defacto7 May 2017 #54
I think he thought what we all thought... Baconator May 2017 #60
If he hadn't spoken out the first time Kentonio May 2017 #5
Yep. ucrdem May 2017 #42
Comey saying zip about the Trump/Russia investigation caused Hillary's loss. VOX May 2017 #6
This e-mail crap is dumber than the hanging chads. miyazaki May 2017 #7
It was a "confluence of related factors", Dana, not a singular event. Eyeball_Kid May 2017 #8
Comey gave an unusual press conference to explain NOT charging Clinton delisen May 2017 #10
Comey: "He made me do it! I can't conceal! I must reveal!" WinkyDink May 2017 #11
Nope... Mike Nelson May 2017 #12
More lies. Does anyone really expect any of these pieces of shit to tell the truth at any point? JTFrog May 2017 #14
I am so damn confused! Blue_Roses May 2017 #17
When all else fails, Republicans blame the Clintons. GeorgeGist May 2017 #18
i think it wasn't just bill clinton, i think all of their mess came back okieinpain May 2017 #19
This guy has more excuses than a freshman caught turning in his roommate's term paper. ucrdem May 2017 #20
This is bullcrap itcfish May 2017 #21
We also know that Bill told them they would lose the Midwest Volstagg May 2017 #23
Yes she did take personal responsibility for her loss. JHan May 2017 #24
Couple things Volstagg May 2017 #25
She took responsibility for her loss.. JHan May 2017 #31
You absolutely nailed it! yallerdawg May 2017 #41
what I realised as well.. JHan May 2017 #43
Just as I suspect that Comey saying this is playing a verbal game of "hot potato", karynnj May 2017 #48
How about the Russian Fertilizer King's plane landing @ airports w/Tump? Botany May 2017 #26
Bull. Morons who fell for a scam coat her the Presidency. Bleacher Creature May 2017 #27
I think he did & I think he cost her the nomination in 08 Motley13 May 2017 #29
20+ years of lies about the Clintons is why HRC lost. LOL Lib May 2017 #30
Bullshit alert!! Bullshit alert!! Bullshit alert!! Lil Missy May 2017 #32
It seems that everyone is to blame B2G May 2017 #33
Bullshit, plain and simple. Raster May 2017 #34
What crap MFM008 May 2017 #35
bullshit. Why did they hang on to the computer for 5 weeks, and only come forward 11 days before still_one May 2017 #36
So unfair: Bill was just trying to ask her out! Chasstev365 May 2017 #37
Comey is a good enough politician to know that this is the right lie for him to tell. StevieM May 2017 #39
Pure bullshit EffieBlack May 2017 #40
another one from Bill that didn't help Motley13 May 2017 #45
This is just an excuse, since he also took revenge on Loretta Lynch by R B Garr May 2017 #46
Obviously no one read the entire article. tavernier May 2017 #47
That episode was baffling. Voltaire2 May 2017 #49
It was her campaign, her baggage and her responsibility... Baconator May 2017 #58
It wasn't her decision to withhold information about Russian meddling R B Garr May 2017 #61
... And a stronger campaign and candidate Baconator May 2017 #62
lol, that's why they call them October surprises. But I realize that doesn't R B Garr May 2017 #65
Maybe, but who died and made Jim Comey the decider of everything? I hate when ecstatic May 2017 #64
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