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JCanete

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74. to just say they suck is really really understating the harm they are causing and the agenda behind

Thu May 4, 2017, 12:42 PM

May 2017

it. To pretend Putin delivered Trump to the White House after all the work Fox News did and CNN did to make this happen, is laughable. Putin is a thug and a monster. He's just not all powerful. Did he try? Yes. Does he like sewing dissent by putting on liberal voices that challenge America's status quo? Almost certainly, but it is good for democracy when those voices get an outlet, and he clearly doesn't understand that.

It is our own corporations selling us out undemocratically, misinforming us to the point where Clinton's emails is the only thing we hear about for 2 weeks before the election, and no vetting of trump gets done at all for his entire primary campaign...not to mention all that free sweet coverage. You think maybe, the corporations like it when the GOP, even GOP crazies with agendas as unAmerican as Trump's, get into the white house? I do.

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Is RT a state run russian propaganda outlet? [View all] boston bean May 2017 OP

Magic 8 Ball says... Wounded Bear May 2017 #1

Yes and anyone on the left who gives them credibility should be ashamed of themselves. hrmjustin May 2017 #2

Left or right. Just anyone. Iggo May 2017 #8

Of course it is Lee-Lee May 2017 #3

This American Life had an excellent podcast episode about Russia Proud Liberal Dem May 2017 #10

Just like Trump claiming relations with Russia couldn't be worse- of course he's bettyellen May 2017 #27

+1 2naSalit May 2017 #37

Isn't this a settled question? Ninsianna May 2017 #4

I thought so. (n/t) Iggo May 2017 #9

Funnily enough, I don't think that was the original intention DFW May 2017 #5

He set it up to have credibility in the west -so when he started using it, it wasn't tainted ... bettyellen May 2017 #28

I think Putin intentionally made it less biased initially. stevenleser May 2017 #62

Theoretically, It should not matter ... MedusaX May 2017 #6

So yes, then. Iggo May 2017 #11

Nope- it's just as often that the lies are of omission- what news they refuse to tell bettyellen May 2017 #30

Was Radio Moscow a propaganda outfit for the USSR? mwooldri May 2017 #7

Indeed Radio Moscow was. However I don't recall them inviting American politicians on... PoliticAverse May 2017 #21

Why did President Obama do multiple interviews with Bill O'Reilly on Fox News? n/t PoliticAverse May 2017 #12

Because Fox is not state-run by Russia and Obama wanted to reach out to Fox Viewers. emulatorloo May 2017 #13

Which network do you think is more damaging to the US, RT or Fox News? n/t PoliticAverse May 2017 #14

More "whataboutisms" as a distraction. emulatorloo May 2017 #16

Russia did a hell of a job in 2016. Obama was elected in 2008 and 2012... even though fox news boston bean May 2017 #17

RT, by leaps and bounds Foamfollower May 2017 #18

I disagree. SalviaBlue May 2017 #29

And its viewing audience is probably a very small fraction of Fox's. n/t PoliticAverse May 2017 #40

Exactly! SalviaBlue May 2017 #42

Then you and I will never agree on this. Foamfollower May 2017 #49

That's an interesting point. True story... stevenleser May 2017 #63

But it is not being ignored is it? Chevy May 2017 #55

They were both in unison in their anti HRC anti Democratic Ninsianna May 2017 #20

Comparing Democratic politicians appearing on Fox with appearing on RT is a defense? Do you consider PoliticAverse May 2017 #22

Stop trolling the thread, this thread is about RT not about Obama or Democrats CreekDog May 2017 #24

The op specifically asked "why are politicians participating or appearing on the station?" PoliticAverse May 2017 #26

What opposing viewpoint was being presented on RT Ninsianna May 2017 #41

In case you missed it, I equated the two and stated otherwise. There was no opposing view Ninsianna May 2017 #39

This thread's about whether or not RT is a gov't propaganda outlet. You tried to make it about Obama CreekDog May 2017 #23

The op specifically asked: "then why are politicians participating or appearing on the station?" PoliticAverse May 2017 #25

RTs specific strategy was to first obtain "street cred" from the far left and then USE them as tools bettyellen May 2017 #34

Because Fox hosted the Superbowl and by tradition the hosting network gets a interview hrmjustin May 2017 #33

Yes, of course! MineralMan May 2017 #15

RT is Putin's favorite tool for disinformation in the West dalton99a May 2017 #19

In as much as CNN is state run propaganda. JesterCS May 2017 #31

"Fake news" - Putin would be proud. bettyellen May 2017 #35

Uh... No Leith May 2017 #38

CNN reports directly to the government? Ninsianna May 2017 #43

daFuq? RT is funded by the Kremlin. Adrahil May 2017 #45

CNN is definitely not state run propaganda. It is corporate propaganda, which really has no JCanete May 2017 #56

No, they are NOT comparable. RT is state run and funded, and CNN is a private corporation. pnwmom May 2017 #65

Is water wet? nycbos May 2017 #32

Concerted effort to intimidate and silence anyone daring to challenge the lies, Ninsianna May 2017 #44

oh lord...probably, totally unlike our own corporately owned stations, which certainly could give JCanete May 2017 #36

It's not a matter of "pristine" American news outlets.... Adrahil May 2017 #46

promoting liberal ideas is not complicit. If russia thinks that harms our major democratic party, JCanete May 2017 #48

Not just Hartmann, quite a few others on RT. Ninsianna May 2017 #47

I don't, and said so in my post. I suggest that you take that into account when you craft your JCanete May 2017 #50

Putin is not Hartmann's boss. SalviaBlue May 2017 #53

Sure, keep denying the fact that Hartmann is deeply involved with the Russian propaganda Ninsianna May 2017 #60

You have no idea what you are talking about. SalviaBlue May 2017 #71

You are right, Ninsianna. It is very odd to see people here who are pushing the RT line. n/t pnwmom May 2017 #67

Thom Hartmann is allowing himself to be used by Russian government television. pnwmom May 2017 #66

then Michael Moore was alllowing himself to be used by big movie studios, and Rachel Maddow JCanete May 2017 #70

And neither of them are allowing themselves to be used by our biggest political adversary nt pnwmom May 2017 #72

you didn't address why this is better, not worse for democracy. More information better. Different JCanete May 2017 #73

Absolutely. Yes! Of course it is. NurseJackie May 2017 #51

The defense of RT in this thread Chevy May 2017 #52

+1 dalton99a May 2017 #54

Yep. nt SunSeeker May 2017 #57

yup. cnn and fix fox suck but RT is Putin controlled JI7 May 2017 #58

to just say they suck is really really understating the harm they are causing and the agenda behind JCanete May 2017 #74

It certainly is! n/t etherealtruth May 2017 #69

Yup, run by the GRU. roamer65 May 2017 #59

Just like CNN or MSNBC Kimchijeon May 2017 #61

No it's not just like, even considering the distinctions you mentioned stevenleser May 2017 #64

WRONG. Russia Today is funded and operated by the Russian government. pnwmom May 2017 #68