Fixing the ACA like Hillary proposed now seems pretty damn progressive

[Ken Burch]

95. You're not entitled to belittle or mock people personally.

You do that to lots of folks, and I can't think of anything anyone here has done to deserve that from you.

Why do you feel that what you do is an acceptable way to treat people on THIS side of the spectrum?

Do you really think what you do helps the Democratic Party recover? If so, why?

No party anywhere has ever won elections by disrespecting people into conformity and silence.

Yes, some people here spoke critically of HRC and did not support her for the nomination from the very start.

That wasn't why Trump won, though.

We didn't fall short in the fall because there wasn't 100% unquestioning adulation for the nominee from all sectors from the moment she declared her candidacy. If that was all that was needed, Al Gore would have finished his second term in 2008.

And you've cynically misused Keith Ellison and what he calls for in your fixation with trying to silence people or drive them out of the party. Keith Ellison simply asked Dems to interact with each other in a positive way...he didn't tell anybody to stop fighting for their principles. "Be Like Keith" never meant "shut up and do what you're told". It meant "stand up for what you want, just don't be a jerk about it".

BTW, if you don't want people to assume the worst, YOU need to stop assuming the worst. For example, you've never had any reason to doubt my party loyalty OR to accuse me of defending third-party presidential voting. I was as loyal to the Clinton-Kaine ticket this fall as you were. If I defended third-party voting, I'd have quit posting here months ago and never returned.

All I've ever said is that the party's tactic of simply DEMANDING that people who vote third-party in presidential elections DOESN'T work. All it does is make those people dig their heels in and refuse to listen to us. Instead, we need to run positive ads directed towards those voters(it would have been easy to do that this fall) emphasizing where we agree with them and how the platform had been influenced significantly in their direction. What would have been the harm of saying "what some people who hold your views in the spring did made a difference. Give us your votes and work with us, and YOU will have a better way to make a difference yourselves"?

It could have won us the Upper Midwest and therefore the White House. What's not to like?