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Bohunk68

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123. Those of us in the community are not on one page on this as well.

Fri May 5, 2017, 04:16 AM

May 2017

There are those who have to have their outrage, and then there are those who say, BFD. No one speaks for all of us. Nor, should they.

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Colbert has no regrets: Late-night host defends controversial Trump Putin c*ck holster joke [View all] Rhiannon12866 May 2017 OP

Despite Republican attempts at gaslighting Warpy May 2017 #1

Jim Parsons was his guest tonight and brought it up - he had no problem with it. Rhiannon12866 May 2017 #2

If Putin was female, we'd not say it was a gay joke Pluvious May 2017 #76

George Takei seemed to be cool with it, too. Ken Burch May 2017 #118

It was also a gay "joke"... Orsino May 2017 #29

What a shame. Behind the Aegis May 2017 #3

Jim Parsons was on tonight and didn't see any homophobia - he brought it up. Rhiannon12866 May 2017 #4

So? Because one guy had no problem with it, it's fine? pnwmom May 2017 #6

Good for Jim. Behind the Aegis May 2017 #7

+1000. n/t pnwmom May 2017 #9

That confused me, too. Rhiannon12866 May 2017 #10

It isn't all about you. It can also be referred to in a hetro situation. OnDoutside May 2017 #12

Did I say or imply it was "all about me"? Behind the Aegis May 2017 #13

You took offence after all, at a phrase which you admit could be either, missing the point OnDoutside May 2017 #16

Oh, I see, as a gay man, I have to adhere to YOUR standards? Behind the Aegis May 2017 #17

As I don't have to adhere to YOUR standards of reading a false narrative into what he said. OnDoutside May 2017 #18

I didn't require you to adhere to my standards, that was implied by you to me. Behind the Aegis May 2017 #19

Not quite so ! OnDoutside May 2017 #22

Homophobia isn't history. It's still alive today -- and every time it is used or justified here, pnwmom May 2017 #60

You're on form today !!! 😊 OnDoutside May 2017 #65

So if Tucker Carlson said Obama uses his mouth as d**k holster for David Cameron, frankieallen May 2017 #40

We all heard a helluva lot worse about Obama from that crowd. BannonsLiver May 2017 #42

+1 OnDoutside May 2017 #50

And we objected. This is equally objectionable. n/t pnwmom May 2017 #61

Utterly ridiculous BannonsLiver May 2017 #98

Are you fine with calling DT the n word? He'd be insulted by that, too. nt pnwmom May 2017 #99

I'll tell you what I'm not fine with BannonsLiver May 2017 #101

I don't think Colbert is a homophobe, I think he made a mistake. And he realizes that. pnwmom May 2017 #103

I'd say it was inaccurate. It would be the other way round.... OnDoutside May 2017 #49

We would dislike it because we like Obama treestar May 2017 #134

If someone directed a racial slur at DT, would that be fine with you, too? pnwmom May 2017 #59

Actually, so many on the left have no problem calling OnDoutside May 2017 #63

You have just made an analogy comparing gay people to orangutans. Wow. pnwmom May 2017 #71

If someone directed a racial slur at DT OnDoutside May 2017 #75

Using a slur against DT that is commonly directed to a black person would be comparable pnwmom May 2017 #77

Funny I haven't heard anyone running to the mountain on OnDoutside May 2017 #83

What is funny about it? pnwmom May 2017 #84

As in, oddly enough. OnDoutside May 2017 #113

I'm going to argue your point... Dorian Gray May 2017 #23

+1 treestar May 2017 #135

It was directed at two MEN, which made it a homophobic slur. It wasn't about hetero sex, pnwmom May 2017 #55

What if they'd said it about some Republican female treestar May 2017 #137

I would ask you to consider and answer these questions... Caliman73 May 2017 #64

Why is the idea of sex between men being used and viewed as the ultimate insult? This is just as pnwmom May 2017 #69

Because a lot of men are homophobic Caliman73 May 2017 #81

But did Stephen really mean it that way? treestar May 2017 #133

Intent is barely relevant. Behind the Aegis May 2017 #139

+1 BannonsLiver May 2017 #41

No, not when you are describing an act between two men. n/t pnwmom May 2017 #54

But they are two heteros, unless you have a scoop for us ? OnDoutside May 2017 #57

Doesn't matter. The slur involves language describing two men having sex. That makes it pnwmom May 2017 #67

But you are foisting you're judgement on two OnDoutside May 2017 #72

That's what you're doing when you say that we should use those terms because they'd be insulted. pnwmom May 2017 #74

And what you can't see is OnDoutside May 2017 #80

But it is being used here to describe TWO MEN. In that case it describes gay sex. pnwmom May 2017 #105

I disagree, the point is he is so friendly to Putin, OnDoutside May 2017 #114

And you are willing to attack Putin using slurs that hurt gay people. Got it. n/t pnwmom May 2017 #119

There you go again, reading into something that is not there. OnDoutside May 2017 #122

"It isn't all about you." Seriously? I think you need to sit down. Gravitycollapse May 2017 #124

Analingus would have been more contemporary and less homophobic HoneyBadger May 2017 #25

+1000, I could not agree more sir. Just because a gay slur is used against a homophobic ass****, frankieallen May 2017 #36

Spare me. I laughed and wasn't in the least bit offended. 6000eliot May 2017 #68

A lot of people on this board, and otherwise, disagree. frankieallen May 2017 #82

So you've got thick skin. That doesn't mean that straight people using homophobic slurs is ok.n/t pnwmom May 2017 #104

OK Ken Burch May 2017 #120

Jim Parsons is wrong, and quite frankly I would have alot more respect for him if he called out frankieallen May 2017 #37

This was my favorite part of tonight's show: :) Rhiannon12866 May 2017 #5

I'm with you on this. Just because the RW is screaming about this doesn't mean they're wrong. pnwmom May 2017 #8

But it does matter that they're being hypocritical. And they're calling for him to be fired. kcr May 2017 #51

I would like him to apologize. But hopefully he learned a lesson, unlike some people here. nt pnwmom May 2017 #53

I agree. it would be nice for him to apologize. kcr May 2017 #62

This message was self-deleted by its author OnDoutside May 2017 #11

yes it did... lame54 May 2017 #43

I'm gay too, and I say it WASN'T homophobia. 6000eliot May 2017 #46

I was struggling with this yesterday Orrex May 2017 #66

I have not been following groups on FB but I know actual gay people in real life pnwmom May 2017 #86

Ask 50 people and you'll likely get 50 answers Orrex May 2017 #87

Is that what you would say if someone was weaponizing slurs against black people pnwmom May 2017 #88

Obviously I will defer to the people on the front lines Orrex May 2017 #91

Pretty much my take on it as well. Bohunk68 May 2017 #107

It's an interesting rock on which to take a stand, to be sure Orrex May 2017 #110

Those of us in the community are not on one page on this as well. Bohunk68 May 2017 #123

I agree completely! Orrex May 2017 #132

I'm bi and I say it was. Want to fight about it? Gravitycollapse May 2017 #125

True. We need to be more creative with our insults. Caliman73 May 2017 #56

Has someone actually called you a cock-holster? I've never even heard that. NunnesBuznat May 2017 #85

Congrats! Behind the Aegis May 2017 #89

I'm showing you how easy it is to be offended by nothing. NunnesBuznat May 2017 #111

Quite the rationalization you got going. Behind the Aegis May 2017 #112

It can't be? Gay people are logical paradigms? I don't understand what you're saying NunnesBuznat May 2017 #116

Wow! Behind the Aegis May 2017 #117

The description was of 2 MEN, with one the "cock-holster." That's what makes the listener think pnwmom May 2017 #131

Using the term "cocksucker" or other gay slurs as a general insult is as offensive as pnwmom May 2017 #130

Agreed. Straw Man May 2017 #138

yes, I am just a cock holster as well. nt m-lekktor May 2017 #96

Limbaugh gets a free pass as an entertainer jeanmarc May 2017 #14

lighten up, francis. pansypoo53219 May 2017 #15

The current President was all over network and cable TV accusing the malaise May 2017 #20

You make a good point. Rhiannon12866 May 2017 #21

Well said malaise May 2017 #26

No one here is arguing that it isn't right and good to insult DT. pnwmom May 2017 #94

I was thrilled that he did not apoloigize amuse bouche May 2017 #24

How many trump voters will lose Turbineguy May 2017 #27

I stand with Stephen Colbert Gothmog May 2017 #28

Republican party enabled trump. $ome Republicans joined in-helped Putin RAPE our democracy. Sunlei May 2017 #30

that headline is actually false he didn't defend that joke dsc May 2017 #31

You're right - he's not defending this. i think he learned something, pnwmom May 2017 #95

I was a bit surprised by that joke. GoCubsGo May 2017 #32

Seems I'm destined to jump into all of these threads Saviolo May 2017 #33

You're doing a great job IMHO of helping us allies... moriah May 2017 #38

Thanks for listening and learning Saviolo May 2017 #39

I'm gay and I disagree. It was a joke. 6000eliot May 2017 #47

Then you don't disagree Saviolo May 2017 #52

I have better things to worry about, such as fascists in the White House. 6000eliot May 2017 #58

The fact that you weren't personally hurt doesn't mean it wasn't a homophobic slur. pnwmom May 2017 #92

Plus a million. And for the connection to "that's so gay' -- a phrase that "allies" also used to try pnwmom May 2017 #90

Easily the most rational take on this issue so far BannonsLiver May 2017 #106

Thanks for reading it Saviolo May 2017 #108

You had me at "in the context". BannonsLiver May 2017 #109

Did he change your mind then or did you not read his whole post? n/t pnwmom May 2017 #121

As a part-time "cock-holster", I didn't interpret the joke as a slur. Coventina May 2017 #34

Oh NOW the right wing is butthurt over homophobia. backscatter712 May 2017 #35

All this faux RW outrage Mendocino May 2017 #44

As a gay man, I think the joke straddles the line.. SaschaHM May 2017 #45

Remarkably well put. Orrex May 2017 #100

Good for him. WoonTars May 2017 #48

This will be interesting to recall, the next time DU praises Bill Maher for his brilliance Orrex May 2017 #70

Really shows you how far we still have to go for the LGBT acceptance if even progressives here can't inwiththenew May 2017 #73

+1000. nt pnwmom May 2017 #78

This thread is getting ridiculous. Who cares? 6000eliot May 2017 #79

I care. If you don't, take a seat. Let the rest of us take care of this. Gravitycollapse May 2017 #126

Good for him. It wasn't homophobic. nt Kirkwood May 2017 #93

All hail the new late night king! pressbox69 May 2017 #97

I stand with Stephen Colbert Gothmog May 2017 #102

of course not; he's a manly-man late night "comedian;" so it's all good... not. nt TheFrenchRazor May 2017 #115

Good. BlueStater May 2017 #127

This Mother's Day could be interesting jeanmarc May 2017 #128

I'm very sorry. I had similar issues with my mother. Rhiannon12866 May 2017 #129

Sorry to hear it jeanmarc May 2017 #140

Hmm, that is harsh what he said Catherine Vincent May 2017 #136