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Jno_Gilmor_

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28. I tend to agree with all of you.

Fri May 5, 2017, 05:27 PM

May 2017

Carter was not a very EFFECTIVE president. I think good is more a value or policy judgement. He was a newbie which didn't help, but the reexaminations by historians of the Carter presidency I have read tend to agree even a master stateman would have found it all but impossible to pass meaningful legislation in that time in history and in that political climate.

I do think, however, that Carter's views on energy and moral diplomacy and foreign policy were way ahead of there time.

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"Jimmy Carter was not a very good president" [View all] MelissaB May 2017 OP

people hate when someone speaks truth. love jcarter. n/t. okieinpain May 2017 #1

Vague statements like that don't help anyone. He was not incredibly effective but.... bettyellen May 2017 #2

House & Senate Dems did not work with him because they saw him as an tblue37 May 2017 #17

I tend to agree with all of you. Jno_Gilmor_ May 2017 #28

Was just going to say- being "ahead of your time" is great only in theory ... bettyellen May 2017 #32

True- I just chuckled at the idea of him acting like LBJ. HA bettyellen May 2017 #36

Both houses of congress were in Democratic control MichMan May 2017 #31

I want to know who said that. I love me some Carter. NWCorona May 2017 #3

I agree he was not a good President sarisataka May 2017 #4

He was way too progressive. Way ahead of his time lunatica May 2017 #5

Yet, in 1980 NewJeffCT May 2017 #27

Carter was regarded as a relatively conservative southern Democrat. StevieM May 2017 #41

For the last 30 years, conservatives and republicans TheDebbieDee May 2017 #6

Really? malaise May 2017 #7

"Carter is a weak President, because .... MicaelS May 2017 #8

I guess they conveniently forget two things: ALL the hostages came home alive; and the Reagan Team WinkyDink May 2017 #23

in fact, he did authorize direct military action to free the hostages: unblock May 2017 #26

Reagan sold arms to Iran Ayatollah and diverted the money to delisen May 2017 #33

Their goal is just to piss us off. Initech May 2017 #9

And it happened at a DNC Unity Commission meeting.... MelissaB May 2017 #10

That's bullshit. hunter May 2017 #11

What he was not was a self-aggrandizing president. nolabear May 2017 #12

Totally agree. cbreezen May 2017 #19

Spot on analysis. suffragette May 2017 #21

That's an interesting point about the drama- I don't get how people believe it's more than an act bettyellen May 2017 #34

He also upgraded military discharges of Vietnam vets who had delisen May 2017 #35

I'd really like to know who said this MelissaB May 2017 #13

That may be WellDarn May 2017 #14

How is this constructive towards 'unity'? Jimmy Carter was a 'good' president... WePurrsevere May 2017 #15

A must watch: Hunter S. Thompson recalls a speech by Jimmy Carter on Bob Dylan and MLK bathroommonkey76 May 2017 #16

Thanks for that NightWatcher May 2017 #18

YW bathroommonkey76 May 2017 #42

Yeah, what a loser! ONLY a Nobel Peace Prize! ONLY the Depts of Energy and of Education! ONLY the WinkyDink May 2017 #20

Compared to who ? Nixon? Bush ?Reagan ? Trump? Wonder who is at the meeting lunasun May 2017 #22

he had so many forces working against him loyalsister May 2017 #24

It was said probably by one of these people: WinkyDink May 2017 #25

i look back on his term as stymied by dirty tricks and manipulation. mopinko May 2017 #29

Anybody know how many Soldiers were killed under Carter? JDC May 2017 #30

There were eight killed at Desert One. former9thward May 2017 #39

Thank you. JDC May 2017 #40

Not helpful, and to be fair, not true. mountain grammy May 2017 #37

Carter was a Human Rights, Equality,& Peace president delisen May 2017 #38