Fixing the ACA like Hillary proposed now seems pretty damn progressive

[DanTex]

132. Yes, but that misses the point.

Sure they aren't here anymore. But it's not about who is on DU and who isn't. It's about voices in the self-described progressive movement.

And I know that you know about them. Like me, you are a progressive. You read and watch progressive media. Right? CommonDreams, Counterpunch, Jacobin, TYT, etc. So you know what I'm saying.

Sure, some Stein voters may have assumed HRC was going to win. But I'm not talking about just those voters, I'm talking about voices in progressive media, who argued that Hillary was so "neoliberal" or "corporatist" or whatever other meaningless buzzwords, that people should toss their votes in the toilet rather than vote for her. Examples? OK. Chris Hedges. Jimmy Dore. And so on. And, yes, many of them (including Jill Stein) argued that Trump was actually better than Hillary. Some, like Slavoj Zizek, explicitly advocated for Trump. And even among the ones that didn't do so explicitly, by my count there are a total of zero progressive media voices who supported Stein or write-in and who have since then apologized for how insanely stupid that was.

Honestly, I'm almost insulted that you are pretending not to know about this. Because it's there, and we both know it. It's a problem, and the current leftist movement needs to deal with it. Until it does, unfortunately, it will simply continue Ralph Nader's tradition of helping Republicans get elected and shape right-wing policy, while the left writes furious blog posts about how there's no difference between the parties.