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Tommy_Carcetti

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38. And Hitler's invasion of the Soviet Union slowed Stalin's reign of terror on his people.
Sat May 6, 2017, 11:05 AM
May 2017

Which excuses absolutely nothing about what Hitler did. But basically it just shows the people of Eastern Europe were trading back and forth between arguably the two most evil men of the 20th Century.

It's ridiculous to paint one as any better than the other. The only difference at all is that Hitler was an immediate threat to us and our allies while Stalin wasn't.

Go shove your claims of "false equivalence" where the sun don't shine.

I would say that he is promoting subjective truth dhol82 May 2017 #1
Oh, you mean like "alternative facts?" dchill May 2017 #28
Exactly. nt dhol82 May 2017 #90
Modern Fascist hire Public Relations firms and sometimes retired foreign Generals. gordianot May 2017 #2
Let's talk about post WW II, the Soviet Union, and the Iron Curtain too. Botany May 2017 #3
Let's talk about the Soviet Union starving the Ukraine as it stole Ukraine's harvests. no_hypocrisy May 2017 #4
Objective truth is...there were no good guys on the Eastern Front of WWII. Wounded Bear May 2017 #5
The Finns were about the only "good guys" on the Eastern Front Kaleva May 2017 #9
I'll give you that... Wounded Bear May 2017 #11
Um, does it matter that we were allies with the "evil empire" when our Presidents KingCharlemagne May 2017 #12
Not really... Wounded Bear May 2017 #21
Sigh. You better thank your lucky stars we were allies with the USSR. Without the sacrifices of KingCharlemagne May 2017 #24
Sigh...your hyperbole is duly noted. Wounded Bear May 2017 #29
Your false equivalence of Stalin with Hitler is demonstrable proof positive that you KingCharlemagne May 2017 #31
And Stalin had his Gulags... Wounded Bear May 2017 #36
OF course I lionize Stalin (for reasons mentioned elsewhere). Speaking of 'rounding up' people, FDR KingCharlemagne May 2017 #64
Nice whataboutism. Nt Tommy_Carcetti May 2017 #73
Well, you are entitled to your opinions....but... Wounded Bear May 2017 #75
Stalin killed more Russians then Hitler did Germans.. EX500rider May 2017 #85
How many interned Japanese died Vs how many in the Gulags? EX500rider May 2017 #88
And Hitler's invasion of the Soviet Union slowed Stalin's reign of terror on his people. Tommy_Carcetti May 2017 #38
Hitler opened Auschwitz. Stalin (and the Red Army) closed it. Q.E.D. - nt KingCharlemagne May 2017 #66
Well then, Stalin's such a swell guy. Tommy_Carcetti May 2017 #74
Yes, reminds me a lot of the "Hitler was a bad guy but had some good ideas" trope we've all heard BannonsLiver May 2017 #79
I can't believe anyone in their right mind would laud the virtues of Stalin. Tommy_Carcetti May 2017 #81
Some people have a thing for authoritarians BannonsLiver May 2017 #82
Nice thoughtless sound bite. bettyellen May 2017 #78
Stalin served a strategic purpose to us at the time. Hitler didn't. Tommy_Carcetti May 2017 #46
War makes strange bedfellows. Adrahil May 2017 #50
I'm halfway through Snyder's Bloodlands right now Tommy_Carcetti May 2017 #19
Millions? MFM008 May 2017 #54
How about instead we talk about how the USSR lost 26 million fighting Hitler KingCharlemagne May 2017 #6
+1 rug May 2017 #8
How about that is B.S.! NewRedDawn May 2017 #13
What is B.S.? That the USSR lost 100 people for every 1 the U.S. lost? I know U.S. lives KingCharlemagne May 2017 #16
I never disputed thier loses NewRedDawn May 2017 #20
FFS. You need to take a few history classes or read some books. The USSR had KingCharlemagne May 2017 #23
So we had the A Bomb NewRedDawn May 2017 #26
Oy vey. - nt KingCharlemagne May 2017 #27
Is that you Boris Epshtein ? NewRedDawn May 2017 #94
Your rendition of history seems to leave out the Gulags. former9thward May 2017 #93
It was 42 million, including civilians. BSdetect May 2017 #15
Precise casualty counts are impossible. For one thing, the line between KingCharlemagne May 2017 #17
Drumph is an ignorant draft avoiding moron BSdetect May 2017 #48
And how much material support did we give the Soviet Union in WW II?* Botany May 2017 #56
We provided the coats, the Soviet people provided the bodies. Or are you KingCharlemagne May 2017 #65
You really have no shame Botany May 2017 #68
You are the one who has no shame, willing to accept with absolute equanimity that Soviets died at KingCharlemagne May 2017 #69
Say hi to Vlad. just so you could withhold your gratitude and engage in decadent what-aboutism* Botany May 2017 #71
Post removed Post removed May 2017 #72
Yes, it's such an odd kink BannonsLiver May 2017 #80
Oh good WellDarn May 2017 #7
LOL. When the Nazi scum invaded Ukraine, they had to restrain the Ukrainians for being KingCharlemagne May 2017 #14
So what is Vlad? NewRedDawn May 2017 #40
You are quite tiresome. Go read a book or take a history class. - nt KingCharlemagne May 2017 #59
You are a condescending Prick NewRedDawn May 2017 #87
Ukrainian "hero" Stepan Bandera gleefully aided Nazis in hunting down and killing Jews Jake Stern May 2017 #58
There's another word for scum like Bandera: opportunist - nt KingCharlemagne May 2017 #60
Also Please don't use the Bernie Logo NewRedDawn May 2017 #89
There comes a point where the monstrosity is so overwhelming distinctions are pointless Tommy_Carcetti May 2017 #32
I have a feeling WellDarn May 2017 #37
Both Castro and Bautista were bad. Tommy_Carcetti May 2017 #39
Of course you've heard WellDarn May 2017 #45
I was probably a couple of days from not existing as who I am... Tommy_Carcetti May 2017 #47
I appreciate your family experiences WellDarn May 2017 #52
Collectivization was a disaster from the get-go. Tommy_Carcetti May 2017 #76
Hard to argue with that. WellDarn May 2017 #77
Post removed Post removed May 2017 #61
You're spewing some hateful nonsense about your fellow DUers now. But as long bettyellen May 2017 #83
Here's more propaganda rug May 2017 #10
Were it not for Stalin, Zhukov and the Red Army, we would all be goose-stepping KingCharlemagne May 2017 #18
How, pray tell, sarisataka May 2017 #42
You seriously think the Nazis would have conquered America? bettyellen May 2017 #84
If not for US aid, the Russians would be the ones speaking German. EX500rider May 2017 #86
That doesn't excuse anything Stalin did. Tommy_Carcetti May 2017 #49
What-aboutism, the first resort of defenders of the right wing. - nt KingCharlemagne May 2017 #62
Again Bullshit! NewRedDawn May 2017 #22
Sigh. - nt KingCharlemagne May 2017 #25
On this he is correct malaise May 2017 #30
Counter propaganda and whitewashing is not going to improve it Tommy_Carcetti May 2017 #41
Maybe we should leave it folks from neither of the two great malaise May 2017 #43
Agreed. nt Tommy_Carcetti May 2017 #44
The lesson of WW2 is that war is evil. hrmjustin May 2017 #33
We did not need WW2 for that lesson. (See WW1.) IMO, the lesson of WW2 is that sometimes KingCharlemagne May 2017 #34
Yes that is a good point. hrmjustin May 2017 #35
What most ideologues melm00se May 2017 #51
Agree. NewRedDawn May 2017 #53
Correct sarisataka May 2017 #55
Winds of War Cartoonist May 2017 #57
We owe Zhukov big-time. - nt KingCharlemagne May 2017 #63
"Coats" is a bit of an over-simplification sarisataka May 2017 #67
Ukraine was treated by Russia in the thirties... jeanmarc May 2017 #70
I've seen Mugabe fanboys here, Chavez, Castro etc... EX500rider May 2017 #91
I know. That is some shit isn't? NewRedDawn May 2017 #92
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