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MineralMan

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21. Long term, it could change many, many things.

Sat May 6, 2017, 12:26 PM

May 2017

Those changes could be very hard to predict, though.

Anyone who has driven to California has encountered the "Agricultural Inspection Stations" located near the border on every major road into the state from all directions. What most people don't know is that those were set up during the Dust Bowl migrations and were really designed to discourage migrants from entering California. They didn't work for that purpose, but are still there and still operating. They could easily be converted into "Migrant Discouragement Stations" again, if needed. In fact, some of them serve that purpose today, and are also used by ICE to stop undocumented immigrants.

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TrumpCare May Lead to Massive Internal Migrations. [View all] MineralMan May 2017 OP

Walls for every state? IADEMO2004 May 2017 #1

2 prong strategy NewRedDawn May 2017 #4

Probably not. But, it could definitely create problems. MineralMan May 2017 #7

To some extent that is already happening greymattermom May 2017 #2

Yes, but people who need healthcare and can't get it MineralMan May 2017 #8

In your scenario the migration would have tremendous adverse economic impacts rzemanfl May 2017 #15

It certainly could, and you're correct. MineralMan May 2017 #18

You assume that migration would only be from red to blue FBaggins May 2017 #13

I doubt that very much. There are already attractive advantages MineralMan May 2017 #19

You may be protecting there FBaggins May 2017 #22

Some of that movement is coming from retirees, who MineralMan May 2017 #23

Other people, like me, enjoy swimming outdoors in January. rzemanfl May 2017 #24

Quite a few retirees are becoming expatriates, as well. MineralMan May 2017 #34

A huge drawback is the penalty should one come back and want Medicare. rzemanfl May 2017 #35

Just leave it in force. Pay the Part B premium as usual. MineralMan May 2017 #36

I don't plan on going anywhere. $1,308 a year more for that cheaper cost of living rzemanfl May 2017 #37

The differences in cost of living are far larger MineralMan May 2017 #39

Too adventurous for my blood, but more power to the folks who take the chance. n/t rzemanfl May 2017 #46

Four of the top 5 states for in migration for 2015-16 were red states mnhtnbb May 2017 #44

I'm flashing on a redux Do Re Mi Brother Buzz May 2017 #3

Yup. MineralMan May 2017 #9

yup CountAllVotes May 2017 #17

Thus assuring a bright future for the medieval serfdoms aka red states dalton99a May 2017 #5

Could be. I sure hope not. MineralMan May 2017 #12

The systems already exist in some states, and they already impact migrations and economies. L. Coyote May 2017 #6

Yes. The differences will be even more tangible as MineralMan May 2017 #10

If anyone doubts that this could happen, MineralMan May 2017 #11

this is also what Mexican immigrants do. n/t Horse with no Name May 2017 #26

Long term, it could tilt the Electoral College... Wounded Bear May 2017 #14

Long term, it could change many, many things. MineralMan May 2017 #21

Look at what California is considering. Would there be a "Health Rush" to the Golden State? PearliePoo2 May 2017 #16

An excellent example, I think. If that occurs, combine that with a great climate MineralMan May 2017 #20

Now THESE are my kind of Democrats! - nt KingCharlemagne May 2017 #33

I work at a major medical center in a red state Horse with no Name May 2017 #25

Oddly enough, here in the Twin Cities of MN, MineralMan May 2017 #32

Tremendous economic dislocation. Turbineguy May 2017 #27

That may be the plan. moondust May 2017 #28

This is what I did janterry May 2017 #29

In 20th century, southern states used to buy bus ticket for delisen May 2017 #30

In this century this is happening in Colorado. OldHippieChick May 2017 #41

Wyoming,pop.580,000 could use some liberal settlements delisen May 2017 #47

That' interesting. I had not stopped to consider the possibility before now. I hope KingCharlemagne May 2017 #31

I'm sorry, but eff the red states. They voted for him and they can suffer the consequences. smirkymonkey May 2017 #38

Oh, dear. You can't keep them from moving, you know. MineralMan May 2017 #40

They won't like it here much. smirkymonkey May 2017 #42

The big problem with that as I see it Egnever May 2017 #43

State residency will become nearly impossible to establish... roamer65 May 2017 #45