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In reply to the discussion: Putin wants to promote objective truth about WWII [View all]Tommy_Carcetti
(43,174 posts)76. Collectivization was a disaster from the get-go.
If it was only a matter of a failed policy gone wrong, Stalin would have stopped it as soon as he realized it wasn't working.
Instead he accelerated it to the point of absurdity (just for example, creating quotas he knew very well were impossible to meet) knowing full well the only logical result would be even more death. And it was intentionally punitive and vindictive against the Ukrainian kulaks who resented being subjugated under Soviet rule.
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Modern Fascist hire Public Relations firms and sometimes retired foreign Generals.
gordianot
May 2017
#2
Let's talk about the Soviet Union starving the Ukraine as it stole Ukraine's harvests.
no_hypocrisy
May 2017
#4
Um, does it matter that we were allies with the "evil empire" when our Presidents
KingCharlemagne
May 2017
#12
Sigh. You better thank your lucky stars we were allies with the USSR. Without the sacrifices of
KingCharlemagne
May 2017
#24
Your false equivalence of Stalin with Hitler is demonstrable proof positive that you
KingCharlemagne
May 2017
#31
OF course I lionize Stalin (for reasons mentioned elsewhere). Speaking of 'rounding up' people, FDR
KingCharlemagne
May 2017
#64
And Hitler's invasion of the Soviet Union slowed Stalin's reign of terror on his people.
Tommy_Carcetti
May 2017
#38
Hitler opened Auschwitz. Stalin (and the Red Army) closed it. Q.E.D. - nt
KingCharlemagne
May 2017
#66
Yes, reminds me a lot of the "Hitler was a bad guy but had some good ideas" trope we've all heard
BannonsLiver
May 2017
#79
I can't believe anyone in their right mind would laud the virtues of Stalin.
Tommy_Carcetti
May 2017
#81
How about instead we talk about how the USSR lost 26 million fighting Hitler
KingCharlemagne
May 2017
#6
What is B.S.? That the USSR lost 100 people for every 1 the U.S. lost? I know U.S. lives
KingCharlemagne
May 2017
#16
FFS. You need to take a few history classes or read some books. The USSR had
KingCharlemagne
May 2017
#23
Precise casualty counts are impossible. For one thing, the line between
KingCharlemagne
May 2017
#17
We provided the coats, the Soviet people provided the bodies. Or are you
KingCharlemagne
May 2017
#65
You are the one who has no shame, willing to accept with absolute equanimity that Soviets died at
KingCharlemagne
May 2017
#69
Say hi to Vlad. just so you could withhold your gratitude and engage in decadent what-aboutism*
Botany
May 2017
#71
LOL. When the Nazi scum invaded Ukraine, they had to restrain the Ukrainians for being
KingCharlemagne
May 2017
#14
Ukrainian "hero" Stepan Bandera gleefully aided Nazis in hunting down and killing Jews
Jake Stern
May 2017
#58
There comes a point where the monstrosity is so overwhelming distinctions are pointless
Tommy_Carcetti
May 2017
#32
You're spewing some hateful nonsense about your fellow DUers now. But as long
bettyellen
May 2017
#83
Were it not for Stalin, Zhukov and the Red Army, we would all be goose-stepping
KingCharlemagne
May 2017
#18
We did not need WW2 for that lesson. (See WW1.) IMO, the lesson of WW2 is that sometimes
KingCharlemagne
May 2017
#34