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EX500rider

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85. Stalin killed more Russians then Hitler did Germans..

Sat May 6, 2017, 03:44 PM

May 2017

WHICH 20TH CENTURY DICTATOR KILLED THE MOST PEOPLE?

Mao: 40 million
Stalin: 20 million
Hitler: 12 million
Leopold II: 10 million
Tojo: 5 million

http://historyofrussia.org/stalin-killed-how-many-people/

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Putin wants to promote objective truth about WWII [View all] DetlefK May 2017 OP

I would say that he is promoting subjective truth dhol82 May 2017 #1

Oh, you mean like "alternative facts?" dchill May 2017 #28

Exactly. nt dhol82 May 2017 #90

Modern Fascist hire Public Relations firms and sometimes retired foreign Generals. gordianot May 2017 #2

Let's talk about post WW II, the Soviet Union, and the Iron Curtain too. Botany May 2017 #3

Let's talk about the Soviet Union starving the Ukraine as it stole Ukraine's harvests. no_hypocrisy May 2017 #4

Objective truth is...there were no good guys on the Eastern Front of WWII. Wounded Bear May 2017 #5

The Finns were about the only "good guys" on the Eastern Front Kaleva May 2017 #9

I'll give you that... Wounded Bear May 2017 #11

Um, does it matter that we were allies with the "evil empire" when our Presidents KingCharlemagne May 2017 #12

Not really... Wounded Bear May 2017 #21

Sigh. You better thank your lucky stars we were allies with the USSR. Without the sacrifices of KingCharlemagne May 2017 #24

Sigh...your hyperbole is duly noted. Wounded Bear May 2017 #29

Your false equivalence of Stalin with Hitler is demonstrable proof positive that you KingCharlemagne May 2017 #31

And Stalin had his Gulags... Wounded Bear May 2017 #36

OF course I lionize Stalin (for reasons mentioned elsewhere). Speaking of 'rounding up' people, FDR KingCharlemagne May 2017 #64

Nice whataboutism. Nt Tommy_Carcetti May 2017 #73

Well, you are entitled to your opinions....but... Wounded Bear May 2017 #75

Stalin killed more Russians then Hitler did Germans.. EX500rider May 2017 #85

How many interned Japanese died Vs how many in the Gulags? EX500rider May 2017 #88

And Hitler's invasion of the Soviet Union slowed Stalin's reign of terror on his people. Tommy_Carcetti May 2017 #38

Hitler opened Auschwitz. Stalin (and the Red Army) closed it. Q.E.D. - nt KingCharlemagne May 2017 #66

Well then, Stalin's such a swell guy. Tommy_Carcetti May 2017 #74

Yes, reminds me a lot of the "Hitler was a bad guy but had some good ideas" trope we've all heard BannonsLiver May 2017 #79

I can't believe anyone in their right mind would laud the virtues of Stalin. Tommy_Carcetti May 2017 #81

Some people have a thing for authoritarians BannonsLiver May 2017 #82

Nice thoughtless sound bite. bettyellen May 2017 #78

Stalin served a strategic purpose to us at the time. Hitler didn't. Tommy_Carcetti May 2017 #46

War makes strange bedfellows. Adrahil May 2017 #50

I'm halfway through Snyder's Bloodlands right now Tommy_Carcetti May 2017 #19

Millions? MFM008 May 2017 #54

How about instead we talk about how the USSR lost 26 million fighting Hitler KingCharlemagne May 2017 #6

+1 rug May 2017 #8

How about that is B.S.! NewRedDawn May 2017 #13

What is B.S.? That the USSR lost 100 people for every 1 the U.S. lost? I know U.S. lives KingCharlemagne May 2017 #16

I never disputed thier loses NewRedDawn May 2017 #20

FFS. You need to take a few history classes or read some books. The USSR had KingCharlemagne May 2017 #23

So we had the A Bomb NewRedDawn May 2017 #26

Oy vey. - nt KingCharlemagne May 2017 #27

Is that you Boris Epshtein ? NewRedDawn May 2017 #94

Your rendition of history seems to leave out the Gulags. former9thward May 2017 #93

It was 42 million, including civilians. BSdetect May 2017 #15

Precise casualty counts are impossible. For one thing, the line between KingCharlemagne May 2017 #17

Drumph is an ignorant draft avoiding moron BSdetect May 2017 #48

And how much material support did we give the Soviet Union in WW II?* Botany May 2017 #56

We provided the coats, the Soviet people provided the bodies. Or are you KingCharlemagne May 2017 #65

You really have no shame Botany May 2017 #68

You are the one who has no shame, willing to accept with absolute equanimity that Soviets died at KingCharlemagne May 2017 #69

Say hi to Vlad. just so you could withhold your gratitude and engage in decadent what-aboutism* Botany May 2017 #71

Post removed Post removed May 2017 #72

Yes, it's such an odd kink BannonsLiver May 2017 #80

Oh good WellDarn May 2017 #7

LOL. When the Nazi scum invaded Ukraine, they had to restrain the Ukrainians for being KingCharlemagne May 2017 #14

So what is Vlad? NewRedDawn May 2017 #40

You are quite tiresome. Go read a book or take a history class. - nt KingCharlemagne May 2017 #59

You are a condescending Prick NewRedDawn May 2017 #87

Ukrainian "hero" Stepan Bandera gleefully aided Nazis in hunting down and killing Jews Jake Stern May 2017 #58

There's another word for scum like Bandera: opportunist - nt KingCharlemagne May 2017 #60

Also Please don't use the Bernie Logo NewRedDawn May 2017 #89

There comes a point where the monstrosity is so overwhelming distinctions are pointless Tommy_Carcetti May 2017 #32

I have a feeling WellDarn May 2017 #37

Both Castro and Bautista were bad. Tommy_Carcetti May 2017 #39

Of course you've heard WellDarn May 2017 #45

I was probably a couple of days from not existing as who I am... Tommy_Carcetti May 2017 #47

I appreciate your family experiences WellDarn May 2017 #52

Collectivization was a disaster from the get-go. Tommy_Carcetti May 2017 #76

Hard to argue with that. WellDarn May 2017 #77

Post removed Post removed May 2017 #61

You're spewing some hateful nonsense about your fellow DUers now. But as long bettyellen May 2017 #83

Here's more propaganda rug May 2017 #10

Were it not for Stalin, Zhukov and the Red Army, we would all be goose-stepping KingCharlemagne May 2017 #18

How, pray tell, sarisataka May 2017 #42

You seriously think the Nazis would have conquered America? bettyellen May 2017 #84

If not for US aid, the Russians would be the ones speaking German. EX500rider May 2017 #86

That doesn't excuse anything Stalin did. Tommy_Carcetti May 2017 #49

What-aboutism, the first resort of defenders of the right wing. - nt KingCharlemagne May 2017 #62

Again Bullshit! NewRedDawn May 2017 #22

Sigh. - nt KingCharlemagne May 2017 #25

On this he is correct malaise May 2017 #30

Counter propaganda and whitewashing is not going to improve it Tommy_Carcetti May 2017 #41

Maybe we should leave it folks from neither of the two great malaise May 2017 #43

Agreed. nt Tommy_Carcetti May 2017 #44

The lesson of WW2 is that war is evil. hrmjustin May 2017 #33

We did not need WW2 for that lesson. (See WW1.) IMO, the lesson of WW2 is that sometimes KingCharlemagne May 2017 #34

Yes that is a good point. hrmjustin May 2017 #35

What most ideologues melm00se May 2017 #51

Agree. NewRedDawn May 2017 #53

Correct sarisataka May 2017 #55

Winds of War Cartoonist May 2017 #57

We owe Zhukov big-time. - nt KingCharlemagne May 2017 #63

"Coats" is a bit of an over-simplification sarisataka May 2017 #67

Ukraine was treated by Russia in the thirties... jeanmarc May 2017 #70

I've seen Mugabe fanboys here, Chavez, Castro etc... EX500rider May 2017 #91

I know. That is some shit isn't? NewRedDawn May 2017 #92