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59. I Believe We Shall Have To

Sun May 7, 2017, 09:56 PM

May 2017

Agree to disagree. BS is already testing the waters.

“Mr. Sanders, the runner-up in the 2016 primaries, may loom largest over the next Democratic race. He is already planning his first return trip to early-voting Iowa in July, and plans to be the keynote speaker at the convention of a social justice organization that works closely with his political group, Our Revolution.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/30/us/politics/democrats-2020.html?_r=0

“Bernie Sanders. Just after Trump was elected, the self-described “democratic socialist” from Vermont was asked if he’d run in 2020. "We'll take one thing at a time,” he responded. “But I'm not ruling out anything.” Sanders’ unlikely 2016 surge won him national recognition and popularity across party lines, especially with young voters. But Bernie will be 79 in 2020, older than any major party nominee in America's history. This obviously presents concern; though at 70, Donald Trump is already older than any other President beginning his first term.”

http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/7573677/democrat-president-2020-election-bernie-sanders-elizabeth-warren

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Dems need a young(er) nominee in 2020 [View all] BluegrassDem May 2017 OP

Please let it go, and do NOT refer to those older than you as 'geriatric.' elleng May 2017 #1

Let what go? BluegrassDem May 2017 #3

I like people who are honest. bathroommonkey76 May 2017 #31

Hitler and Mussolini were the fresh faces. of their time. Old Life magazines delisen May 2017 #33

Teddy Roosevelt was 42 bathroommonkey76 May 2017 #36

You don't think Jimmy Carter was a great president? delisen May 2017 #41

Where did I say that in my comment? bathroommonkey76 May 2017 #42

You didn't but you didn't include him.What did you think of him? delisen May 2017 #53

He was 52. bathroommonkey76 May 2017 #54

Looks to me like the trend is getting older... pangaia May 2017 #43

The current trend with Trump is older- He's 70. lol bathroommonkey76 May 2017 #46

:))))))))))))))))))) NT EOM.. over and out 10-4 sayonara pangaia May 2017 #60

Baby Boomers are having a little trouble letting go, I think. Warren DeMontague May 2017 #93

I have no problems letting go. I am 70 and know that we slow down although it Jim Beard May 2017 #102

I mean more on the general political scene, at least domestically. Warren DeMontague May 2017 #103

I don't think you are correct - Boomers supported Obama - and (anecdotally) supported Macron DrDan May 2017 #113

Like I said up there- Warren DeMontague May 2017 #118

sure we need younger voices - did someone say otherwise? - I am just saying I think voters DrDan May 2017 #120

Well, there's two things. Warren DeMontague May 2017 #123

don't discount the east when it comes to legalization - a bill passed in Florida with 70 in support DrDan May 2017 #125

I don't discount the voters in the East- it's the leadership where the disconnect is. Warren DeMontague May 2017 #137

I understand John Morgan will be pushing Scott for a special legislative session to DrDan May 2017 #138

Yeah, I know he's not pleased by the way it has been handled. Warren DeMontague May 2017 #139

It's pretty apparent that a youthful candidate will do well against a 74-year-old trump... brush May 2017 #71

Not only is it politically incorrect, it is an out and out prejudice Samantha May 2017 #74

bingo DrDan May 2017 #99

+1. The only thing getting old are these repetitive posts clamoring for younger candidates. JudyM May 2017 #143

+1. joet67 May 2017 #152

Bernie Sanders said a few weeks ago that the Democratic Party bathroommonkey76 May 2017 #25

Pot call kettle black. democratisphere May 2017 #28

Yes, he was talking about himself along with Nancy Pelosi, and the older boomers in the party. bathroommonkey76 May 2017 #30

Nancy is an example of how effective an older experienced person can be...she is terrific and has Demsrule86 May 2017 #109

Yet It's Said He's Running Again Me. May 2017 #45

I don't think he will Kentonio May 2017 #56

I Believe We Shall Have To Me. May 2017 #59

I suspect he'd toss his hat in the ring if... Beartracks May 2017 #65

We he shouldn't. That would elect Trump. Demsrule86 May 2017 #110

I am not inclined to support him, but I think he will run. And he has every right to. StevieM May 2017 #79

He can run as an independent...but I think a Sander's run guarantees a Democratic loss in 2020 Demsrule86 May 2017 #111

I don't think there should ever be an actual age cap Kentonio May 2017 #115

I guess that means he won't be running in 2020 nt fun n serious May 2017 #70

Oh brother. That figures. I keep waiting for him to use the term, 'generation gap.' Kahuna7 May 2017 #101

Yes, doing the RIGHT THINGS.. and younger leaders Cha May 2017 #62

LOL NurseJackie May 2017 #64

Why? You think Crosscheck purges of Dem voters in swing states care how old the Dem nominee is? blm May 2017 #2

"Youth is where it's at"? And how old is the DrDan May 2017 #4

Macron is 39. n/t bathroommonkey76 May 2017 #26

was not referring to Macron DrDan May 2017 #29

and a billionaire investment banker.Let's get a Goldman Sachs delisen May 2017 #35

Le Pen would have been better? bathroommonkey76 May 2017 #37

well I don't think think LePen would have been better delisen May 2017 #63

Maher spoke of those voters the other night. bathroommonkey76 May 2017 #98

In the US the measurably younger candidate usually wins loyalsister May 2017 #148

Nixon, Ford, McPalin, read-my-lips Bush DrDan May 2017 #149

Who did Ford beat in a presidential election? loyalsister May 2017 #150

I am referring to them as losers - and my point is those that I mentioned had DrDan May 2017 #154

So it's completely erroneous to believe it is a factor? loyalsister May 2017 #155

did I say that? DrDan May 2017 #156

You seem to be arguing that it should not be a consideration loyalsister May 2017 #157

I am saying there are other factors - some perhaps more important than age - that have impacted DrDan May 2017 #159

I agree. A new generation needs to heed the call like JFK did. Cattledog May 2017 #5

We need a bench of younger candidates crazycatlady May 2017 #6

Is Joe Kennedy old enough? kentuck May 2017 #7

I like the young spartan61 May 2017 #58

Yes. He's 36. zanana1 May 2017 #100

Pete Buttigieg nt fun n serious May 2017 #8

Yes crazycatlady May 2017 #18

I like Jon Ossoff a lot too. fun n serious May 2017 #21

I've met him greymattermom May 2017 #127

I agree! I dont want anymore Presidents older than me!!!! samnsara May 2017 #9

I think a young Wall St Banker is fine delisen May 2017 #12

No, they chose Macron. They didn't compromise. He beat out many others for his place on the ballot. grossproffit May 2017 #15

exactly and then the fans of the ones he beat out delisen May 2017 #38

Melenchon as a finalist would have led to a LePen presidency. Rational, not compromise won. grossproffit May 2017 #55

I don't understand all this hatred to globalism fun n serious May 2017 #23

Many use the words "Globalism" and "Rothschild" as code words for Jews. grossproffit May 2017 #32

Do you think the is true in US re Globalism & Goldman Sachs? delisen May 2017 #39

Uh huh. grossproffit May 2017 #44

I have no idea what you're talking about fun n serious May 2017 #48

You are correct we are already globalists.I don't delisen May 2017 #50

It's that traditional values mindset Lotusflower70 May 2017 #61

Yeah.. It's creepy to see such ideas on the left. fun n serious May 2017 #68

I know right Lotusflower70 May 2017 #72

Yes, more work than I originally thought. fun n serious May 2017 #73

More than most of us thought Lotusflower70 May 2017 #75

Offshore Outsourcing is part of globalism. HughBeaumont May 2017 #128

I know many in the tech industry.. it happens but not as much as you think... fun n serious May 2017 #135

Post removed Post removed May 2017 #10

Macron Campaign Office Vandalized With Rothschild Anti-Semitic Graffiti grossproffit May 2017 #14

You haz a sad? BainsBane May 2017 #96

Pitt the Younger: I intend to put my own brother up as a candidate against you. Xipe Totec May 2017 #11

Macron victory had nothing to do with age or youth movement JI7 May 2017 #13

Macron is the first major political party win for Generation X- He is 39. n/t bathroommonkey76 May 2017 #27

Macron is like Al Gore in 1992 JI7 May 2017 #16

Or maybe like Al Gore when he first ran in 1988. (eom) StevieM May 2017 #80

Agreed left-of-center2012 May 2017 #17

if that was his comment it's unlikely he cares about issues JI7 May 2017 #19

I prefer that the wise govern-might be young or old delisen May 2017 #20

The term geriatric is basically used in Medicine/nursing/health care caretories. We do not need it riversedge May 2017 #22

I'm 72 and couldn't agree more. It's just a fact of life. We have to get... LAS14 May 2017 #24

Gavin Newsom ! yuiyoshida May 2017 #34

If Newsome wins the governorship in 2018 I don't think he will be able to turn around the next year StevieM May 2017 #81

This message was self-deleted by its author yuiyoshida May 2017 #88

May I introduce... LOL Lib May 2017 #40

Well, now we know what he looks like at 4K resolution. Warren DeMontague May 2017 #51

Hear! Hear! Jane Austin May 2017 #47

I agree, fact of the matter is we need to expand our bench geographically and demographically. Warren DeMontague May 2017 #49

Gavin Newsom. Warren DeMontague May 2017 #52

Experience Matters dlk May 2017 #57

it's not about "hot". Warren DeMontague May 2017 #85

This! smirkymonkey May 2017 #133

+1 KTM May 2017 #140

word. nt TheFrenchRazor May 2017 #97

Yep shenmue May 2017 #106

Can I offer a suggestion? Bleacher Creature May 2017 #66

Agree it's way too early right now... things change. bettyellen May 2017 #69

I told my daughter the same, new blood lovemydogs May 2017 #67

WE NEED a COHESIVE PLAN, AND MESSAGE. bobGandolf May 2017 #76

This message was self-deleted by its author LAS14 May 2017 #122

Yes, we need a message. Let's start thinking now. See message text. LAS14 May 2017 #124

We need a message and candidate that inspires young voters TDale313 May 2017 #77

Sanders disproves this theory DonCoquixote May 2017 #78

It might if Martin O'Malley was his main competition loyalsister May 2017 #147

The guy I plan on supporting will be 69. Jay Inslee, the governor of Washington. StevieM May 2017 #82

Need I remind you all that age discrimination is against the law? BigBearJohn May 2017 #83

So you're going to prosecute people for not voting for the old guy? Warren DeMontague May 2017 #87

Not what I meant, but if your group advertises that you want a "young" BigBearJohn May 2017 #90

People make statements like that all the time. Warren DeMontague May 2017 #91

My wife and I were just saying that tonight. Lunabell May 2017 #84

I don't care what anybody says. If Elizabeth Warren runs for POTUS in 2020 she has BigBearJohn May 2017 #86

I would certainly be inclined to support Senator Warren. But I want a big field. Warren DeMontague May 2017 #89

I believe she will be 71. I agree that her age should in no way be an issue. StevieM May 2017 #92

I do think it may be extra challenging for people who grew up using slide rules Warren DeMontague May 2017 #94

An amazing instrument for it's time. I seriously doubt if I could justhanginon May 2017 #132

I remember my dad bringing home a texas instruments calculator in the early/mid 70s Warren DeMontague May 2017 #146

Dems need the best nominee in 2020. OnDoutside May 2017 #95

I want to keep this simple underthematrix May 2017 #104

YES! zanana1 May 2017 #158

I wouldn't want to vote for a geezer as old as I am. rogerashton May 2017 #105

Well they should care...we need a competent president. Demsrule86 May 2017 #107

How old was the republican again? Littlered9560 May 2017 #108

I agree... Freedomofspeech May 2017 #112

More so than age my fear is... vi5 May 2017 #114

Oh, good grief. Just stop this shit. hamsterjill May 2017 #116

Younger, yes, but above all else, TALL. Admit it or not, taller people get noticed and admired. BlueCaliDem May 2017 #117

I've heard the stat repeatedly that the tallest person always wins. LAS14 May 2017 #121

Taller people also win in the income field. BlueCaliDem May 2017 #129

Since taller people make more money, why not tax away the difference? rogerashton May 2017 #151

I guess they *are* being taxed more than 'shorter' people since they make more money. BlueCaliDem May 2017 #153

But that creates a disincentive to work -- rogerashton May 2017 #160

It doesn't now, does it? So I don't believe that. But if taller people get taxed more merely because BlueCaliDem May 2017 #162

Well, as for incentives, rogerashton May 2017 #163

Unfortunately you have a point. Looks matter to the general public in their perception of a smirkymonkey May 2017 #134

Dems need to focus on 2018 first, or there won't even be a 2020 Blue_Tires May 2017 #119

I agree. n/t Zing Zing Zingbah May 2017 #126

Given your knowledge of this alleged concern... LanternWaste May 2017 #130

I do not like talk like this Proud Liberal Dem May 2017 #131

We need good leaders with progressive messages. Young and old. n/t Orsino May 2017 #136

Like O'Malley who was significantly younger than Bernie or Hillary? tammywammy May 2017 #141

I could support O'Malley in 2020 DesertRat May 2017 #142

The obvious youth movement here had no trouble getting on board with a 74 year old. JudyM May 2017 #144

The ideas are larger than Bernie. HughBeaumont May 2017 #161

IDK about the presidency Jamaal510 May 2017 #145