If we agree on the issues, why are so many on the left fighting each other?

[GulfCoast66]

25. But here is the rub. I doubt you and I are in agreement on several of the issues you state

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Health care. I agree we all have a right to healthcare, not just access to it, but there is more than one way to skin a cat and I would support a system that leaves the hospitals and health system governed by the private sector. Perhaps even employer paid for a large part of the country.

Gun Control. I believe in common sense gun laws, but I also believe that the 2nd does provide individuals with a right to own a modern firearm.

Drilling. Case dependent for me. Not totally opposed.

Pipelines. Same answer as above.

Clean energy. I would guess we are in totally agreement here and I might be more radical. I live in Florida and if I were King of Florida no building over 1,500 square feet could get a building permit without solar panels. Which you might find too radical!

Nor wars for profit and resources. Would need to parse it out. Obviously things like Iraq are total cluster fucks that would result in prison. But no wars for resources? Would you be willing to go to war to protect global sea lanes. Like if Iran cut off the strait of Hormuz or China the South China Sea? Conditionally, I would. Only after every single diplomatic too in the book had been tried.

I support Trade Agreements and think that at the end of the day we(the nation, not just Democrats) will regret abandoning TTP. That has been the Democratic Party position forever. I mean back to FDR's days. Not Clintons.

Money in politics...I just have no answers considering the supreme court. But I know we have to fight on the battlefield we find.


I also notice issue that did not make your list. Racial healing and making up for 450 year of oppression. A woman's right to totally own her own body with no interference. Ending repression of the LGBT community. Now, I am not casting doubt on your support of these causes, just that they did not make your list. The one listing what you want. Not what we necessarily want.

My point is that if some progressives insist that the party support the causes you want without a willingness to compromise with other people on the left who have different priorities then we will never win another election.

The fact that we refer to ourselves in different terms is telling. I do not call myself a progressive. But a liberal. Or sometimes when talking to right winger I do call my self a social Democrat because the word social is close to socialist and that always makes them turn of their front brain, argue like a reptile and I win!

Have a nice evening.