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In reply to the discussion: TYT has lost the plot [View all]Blanks
(4,835 posts)Well, not Ed Shultz, he seems like a moron.
But, here's the thing: we weren't looking at the Russians as 'the bad guys' last spring, but that was when so many 'liberal radio personalities' were so fond of Bernie Sanders, and had such disdain for Clinton.
So, you have these liberal commentators on a 'channel' that doesn't seem like such a threat. I have every respect for the Russians. We have never given them the appreciation they deserve for their contribution to WWII, we don't talk about it much but they stopped the German army on the eastern front, but I digress. They wanted to join NATO a few years ago, they were no threat.
It wasn't until just before the election that the awareness of Russian interference in the election was brought up, and it wasn't until after the election that I became aware that RT was a component of Russian propaganda.
So, when you look back on it, you begin to realize that it wouldn't take a lot of arm twisting for the PTB at RT to say to Hartman, TYT etc we want you to support Sanders, and then through other channels (message boards, twitter, Facebook, fake news etc) they attack Hillary. Use the same basic cliches to attack her that they are using on RT, and you have a full fledged assault on our democratic process. Robert Reich bought into the whole process and just wouldn't let go. His Facebook page was a cesspool of anti-Hillary attacks.
We, as democrats, don't march lock step the way conservatives do. I've engaged in many on line discussions with conservatives and the one thing they know how to do is coordinate their talking points. You'll see a conservative talking point, and within a few hours all conservatives will use that talking point to refute something that a republican has done. For the most part if a democrat does something stupid (Clinton/Lewinsky for example) democratic voters will acknowledge that the democrat was wrong. Republicans don't have that.
This is why the Russian assault was successful, and continues to be successful because these Russian owned commentators all 'liked' Bernie Sanders and even around here the same cliches are repeated about how Hillary was such a bad candidate. It's Russian propaganda.
She was a good candidate, but apparently if something is repeated often enough it becomes fact.