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In reply to the discussion: Stephen Fry blasphemy probe dropped after garda fail to find 'substantial number of outraged people [View all]beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)9. Does one need special insight to wonder why a loving god creates bone cancer and parasites?
Why shouldn't we 'judge' a creator who allows his creations to suffer for absolutely no good reason the same way we would judge an abusive parent? And why isn't Stephen competent to judge such an evil and vengeful creature? The old testament god was a homicidal maniac after all so why should Fry keep his opinions to himself? Especially when it's a being he doesn't even believe in. It's no different than dissing Zeus or Thor on television except you can't be prosecuted for criticizing those gods.
Stephen Fry nailed that interview, it was a thing of beauty.
Here's the video for those who haven't had a chance to enjoy it yet:
Superb!
Stephen Fry brands God 'utterly utterly evil'
The newly married broadcaster was asked what he would do if he found himself at the pearly gates after his death.
"I'll say: bone cancer in children, what's that about? he said.
"How dare you. How dare you create a world in which there is such misery that's not our fault? Its not right. It's utterly, utterly evil.
"Why should I respect a capricious, mean-minded, stupid God who creates a world which is so full of injustice and pain?"
Fry was being interviewed for an Irish television show called The Meaning of Life when he launched into an impassioned tirade about Gods existence.
Asked if he thought he would get to heaven, he replied: "No, but I wouldn't want to. I wouldnt want to get in on his terms. Theyre wrong.
He added: "The God who created this universe, if he created this universe, is quite clearly a maniac, an utter maniac, totally selfish.
"We have to spend our lives on our knees thanking him. What kind of God would do that?
"Yes, the world is very splendid, but it also has in it insects whose whole life cycle is to burrow into the eyes of children and make them blind. Why? Why did you do that to us? It is simply not acceptable.
Atheism is not just about not believing there's a god. On the assumption there is one, what kind of God is he? Its perfectly apparent that was monstrous, utterly monstrous, and deserves no respect.
He added: "The moment you banish him, your life becomes simpler, purer cleaner, more worth living in my opinion."
***
Gay Byrne, the interviewer, slightly taken aback by Fry's strongly worded response, said it was the longest answer hed got to that question.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/11381589/Watch-Stephen-Fry-brands-God-utterly-utterly-evil.html
The newly married broadcaster was asked what he would do if he found himself at the pearly gates after his death.
"I'll say: bone cancer in children, what's that about? he said.
"How dare you. How dare you create a world in which there is such misery that's not our fault? Its not right. It's utterly, utterly evil.
"Why should I respect a capricious, mean-minded, stupid God who creates a world which is so full of injustice and pain?"
Fry was being interviewed for an Irish television show called The Meaning of Life when he launched into an impassioned tirade about Gods existence.
Asked if he thought he would get to heaven, he replied: "No, but I wouldn't want to. I wouldnt want to get in on his terms. Theyre wrong.
He added: "The God who created this universe, if he created this universe, is quite clearly a maniac, an utter maniac, totally selfish.
"We have to spend our lives on our knees thanking him. What kind of God would do that?
"Yes, the world is very splendid, but it also has in it insects whose whole life cycle is to burrow into the eyes of children and make them blind. Why? Why did you do that to us? It is simply not acceptable.
Atheism is not just about not believing there's a god. On the assumption there is one, what kind of God is he? Its perfectly apparent that was monstrous, utterly monstrous, and deserves no respect.
He added: "The moment you banish him, your life becomes simpler, purer cleaner, more worth living in my opinion."
***
Gay Byrne, the interviewer, slightly taken aback by Fry's strongly worded response, said it was the longest answer hed got to that question.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/11381589/Watch-Stephen-Fry-brands-God-utterly-utterly-evil.html
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Stephen Fry blasphemy probe dropped after garda fail to find 'substantial number of outraged people [View all]
yortsed snacilbuper
May 2017
OP
Not according the bible which says all things were created by this God we're not supposed to judge.
beam me up scottie
May 2017
#60
If the ant read a book showing how humans cause innocent ants to suffer - yes it would be competent.
beam me up scottie
May 2017
#63
Of course an omnipotent creator intended for evil to take place. He created evil.
beam me up scottie
May 2017
#77
According to the story all humans deserve to suffer. That includes children.
beam me up scottie
May 2017
#81
I have no idea what you're talking about. What does abortion have to with this thread?
beam me up scottie
May 2017
#84
How about you mansplain to the little lady what you think of her healthcare decisions?
Act_of_Reparation
May 2017
#108
Does one need special insight to wonder why a loving god creates bone cancer and parasites?
beam me up scottie
May 2017
#9
Non theists? You mean people who don't believe in Zeus, Thor or any of the thousands of other gods?
beam me up scottie
May 2017
#12
Wait, what does science have to do with this? Why on earth would anyone conflate science and gods?
beam me up scottie
May 2017
#15
Science is a methodology, it's not some hypothetical cosmic boojum with a grudge against shellfish.
Warren DeMontague
May 2017
#20
He's all-knowing, all powerful, infalliable.. and, he needs your money, and can't stand criticism.
Warren DeMontague
May 2017
#28
It's not my position, it's part of the story. God is supposed to be omnipotent.
beam me up scottie
May 2017
#32
A creator who's omnipotent is responsible for all things it creates - including accidents.
beam me up scottie
May 2017
#69
So if you have a child, you are responsible for every action that the child takes.
guillaumeb
May 2017
#72
God is supposed to be omnipotent. He created humans who he knew would make mistakes.
beam me up scottie
May 2017
#74
It's not rhetoric - all that stuff is in the bible. I'm just citing the source.
beam me up scottie
May 2017
#79
You are right. Just like saying "The Easter Bunny is a jerk and the Tooth Fairy has bad breath"
Warren DeMontague
May 2017
#26
It would be reasonable if there was a book claiming the Easter Bunny has bad breath.
beam me up scottie
May 2017
#33
No different than those who have the Baptism of the Holy Spirit and think the Spirit is with them.
TheBlackAdder
May 2017
#48
Another reason why we are fortunate to have the 1st Amendment, here in the US.
Warren DeMontague
May 2017
#86
Remember when we had people on DU arguing that "blasphemous" cartoons should be illegal?
Warren DeMontague
May 2017
#21
Hey - I've been told he's just as bad as religious fundamentalists who kill people.
trotsky
May 2017
#54