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Tom Rinaldo

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13. They win by controlling Trump. They win by destroying Trump.
Fri May 12, 2017, 12:41 PM
May 2017

Think of Trump as if he were a NASA space probe; preordained that it's days are numbered. Should they have it circle one more asteroid before going dead or steer it into Jupiter's atmosphere for the finale?

There may be any number of small matters, concessions to their global agenda, that Russia wants from Trump that he still can influence while he holds the office of President. But some of those acts would come at high risk to his presidency - which Trump has to believe can still be salvaged. So Trump might balk at delivering on some of them because he knows he can't plausibly defend his actions if he caves to Russia's wishes. That would make him look very bad. Well the Russians may be able to make him look even worse if he doesn't. That could be their message.

Or they may think they've already gotten most of what they can from Trump by now - so it is time to move on to the fiery finale: implode the American government, full scale constitutional crisis, America tired up in knots and looking awful to the world.

The Russians have an almost perfect win/win dynamic. The only way they don't come out of this way ahead is if the American political system rises to the challenge and on a bi-partisan basis puts country ahead of party. That could make some damn good lemonade out of a pile of lemons - but what are the odds of that happening?

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K&R... spanone May 2017 #1
Kislyak & AG Perjurer-in-Chief Jeffy Sessions are also bedfellows Achilleaze May 2017 #2
Hmmm... 2naSalit May 2017 #9
Putin has Trump on a short leash. Trump has always had a Russian minder. cheyanne May 2017 #3
Yes, and this is what it looks like when a minder reminds he who is being minded n/t Tom Rinaldo May 2017 #4
Trumpy sees FRIENDSHIP with these Russians. His archilles heel is his deep loneliness. Eyeball_Kid May 2017 #5
He wants to be a Strongman too. Those are the ones whom he craves respect from Tom Rinaldo May 2017 #7
On top of that Lavrov made fun of Comey's firing to the US press OUTSIDE the meeting. anneboleyn May 2017 #16
Yes! volstork May 2017 #20
He wanted celebrities to love him also Tom Rinaldo May 2017 #21
Absolutely...every word. PearliePoo2 May 2017 #6
If there is a silver lining... Tom Rinaldo May 2017 #10
One can see on Trump's face that he is trying to be "in" with them, while knowing he is failing to WinkyDink May 2017 #8
Excellent analysis. K&R, nt. appal_jack May 2017 #11
great post Locrian May 2017 #12
They win by controlling Trump. They win by destroying Trump. Tom Rinaldo May 2017 #13
my guess Locrian May 2017 #14
Yeah, I think that is the end game. The rest is just timing... Tom Rinaldo May 2017 #15
They have embarrassed the US in front of the world. They have installed a Russian plant as prez. anneboleyn May 2017 #17
I'm not so sure.... Locrian May 2017 #19
And Putin using the phrasing "acting to his competence " to describe Trump's actions..... bettyellen May 2017 #18
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