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In reply to the discussion: Do Kids Really Need Milk with their Meal ? [View all]Binkie The Clown
(7,911 posts)69. Among elderly people who do drink the most milk, hip fracture rates are higher.
Clever snark does not always equate to truth or accuracy.
From the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition:
Abstract
Background: Short trials of calcium supplementation show that it reduces loss of bone density in postmenopausal women; longer observational studies do not generally find a lower risk of hip fracture with higher-calcium diets. Fewer studies have focused on vitamin D in preventing postmenopausal osteoporosis or fractures.
Objective: We assessed relations between postmenopausal hip fracture risk and calcium, vitamin D, and milk consumption.
Design: In an 18-y prospective analysis in 72 337 postmenopausal women, dietary intake and nutritional supplement use were assessed at baseline in 1980 and updated several times during follow-up. We identified 603 incident hip fractures resulting from low or moderate trauma. Relative risks (RRs) from proportional hazards models were controlled for other dietary and nondietary factors.
Results: Women consuming ? 12.5 ?g vitamin D/d from food plus supplements had a 37% lower risk of hip fracture (RR = 0.63; 95% CI: 0.42, 0.94) than did women consuming < 3.5 ?g/d. Total calcium intake was not associated with hip fracture risk (RR = 0.96; 95% CI: 0.68, 1.34 for ? 1200 compared with < 600 mg/d). Milk consumption was also not associated with a lower risk of hip fracture (P for trend = 0.21).
Conclusions: An adequate vitamin D intake is associated with a lower risk of osteoporotic hip fractures in postmenopausal women. Neither milk nor a high-calcium diet appears to reduce risk. Because women commonly consume less than the recommended intake of vitamin D, supplement use or dark fish consumption may be prudent.
Or for a broader audience: https://nutritionfacts.org/2017/01/31/why-is-milk-consumption-associated-with-more-bone-fractures/
[font size=6]Why Is Milk Consumption Associated with More Bone Fractures?[/font]
Written By Michael Greger M.D. FACLM on January 31st, 2017
Milk is touted to build strong bones, but a compilation of all the best studies found no association between milk consumption and hip fracture risk; so, drinking milk as an adult might not help bones, but what about in adolescence? Harvard researchers decided to put it to the test.
Studies have shown that greater milk consumption during childhood and adolescence contributes to peak bone mass, and is therefore expected to help avoid osteoporosis and bone fractures in later life. But thats not what researchers have found (as you can see in my video Is Milk Good for Our Bones?). Milk consumption during teenage years was not associated with a lower risk of hip fracture, and if anything, milk consumption was associated with a borderline increase in fracture risk in men.
It appears that the extra boost in total body bone mineral density from getting extra calcium is lost within a few years, even if you keep the calcium supplementation up. This suggests a partial explanation for the long-standing enigma that hip fracture rates are highest in populations with the greatest milk consumption. This may be an explanation for why theyre not lower, but why would they be higher?
This enigma irked a Swedish research team, puzzled because studies again and again had shown a tendency of a higher risk of fracture with a higher intake of milk. Well, there is a rare birth defect called galactosemia, where babies are born without the enzymes needed to detoxify the galactose found in milk; so, they end up with elevated levels of galactose in their blood, which can cause bone loss even as kids. So maybe, the Swedish researchers figured, even in normal people that can detoxify the stuff, it might not be good for the bones to be drinking it every day.
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Depends on which tribe you come from, as some cultures have been based on dairy for centuries...
Hekate
May 2017
#9
Bingo, you said it so much better than me. I agree 100% about the tribes. The sheep and goat herders
Jim Beard
May 2017
#129
It does not have to be - one brand of popular organic milk is a farmer owned cooperative
womanofthehills
May 2017
#83
Most of my ancestors were ranchers and dairy people, but I'm done with the milk lobby...
hunter
May 2017
#45
Mine did it because store bought butter was a luxury...The bread was a conduit for the butter.
LeftInTX
May 2017
#120
LOL. I know, it's like nobody even thought about that problem in the past.
Buckeye_Democrat
May 2017
#98
Milk is more filling than water as a beverage, and (most) children need a certain
No Vested Interest
May 2017
#7
Cows who eat 100% fresh grass have high levels of CLA (conjugated linoleic acid)
womanofthehills
May 2017
#82
We all believe what we want to believe, and pretty much ignore any facts that disagree.
Binkie The Clown
May 2017
#111
Where's your proof? Or are we to believe you just because you say so? n/t
Binkie The Clown
May 2017
#96
Among elderly people who do drink the most milk, hip fracture rates are higher.
Binkie The Clown
May 2017
#69
And we all tend to look only at the data that supports what we want to believe.
Binkie The Clown
May 2017
#133
Q: Does any adult animal consume the milk of another species as part of its natural diet?
Binkie The Clown
May 2017
#126
I would say no. I was always forced to drink milk at dinner and I hated it!
smirkymonkey
May 2017
#14
My Chinese coworker said I smelled like butter and they hate that... I thought it was
bettyellen
May 2017
#36
The Japanese word for western traders was "batakusai" meaning stinks of butter
LeftyMom
May 2017
#41
Yeah she told me there was a word for it, but I forgot what it was. She was the rudest person, she
bettyellen
May 2017
#44
I think it is rare enough that they can smell it on us, certainly most of Asia except Hindus in
bettyellen
May 2017
#63
No, water, perhaps juice, or even soy or almond milk, but definitely not soft drinks
still_one
May 2017
#37
I love milk (low fat). I've been drinking it for almost 70 years now
The Velveteen Ocelot
May 2017
#51
I LOVE milk, cheese, and ice cream. But upon learning the facts, I gave them up...
Binkie The Clown
May 2017
#127