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In reply to the discussion: Taylor and Mensch now report, based on separate sources, a sealed indictment against DT. [View all]womanofthehills
(10,682 posts)18. Bill Palmer - the purpose of this indictment is to try to kickstart the impeachment process
Report: FISA court issues sealed indictment against Donald Trump
When it comes to political pundits who claim to have inside sources, I judge them by track record. Liberal pundit Claude Taylors sources have recently been proven right about Donald Trump grand juries. Conservative pundit Louise Menschs sources have long been proven right on Trump-Russia FISA warrants. So when the two of them say they each have different inside sources telling them the same thing, I listen. And what theyre jointly saying tonight is that a sealed indictment has been delivered against Donald Trump.
Lets be clear here: this is not an indictment against a Donald Trump associate or adviser, or some other ancillary player. Taylor and Mensch are jointly stating tonight on Menschs site that the sealed indictment is against Donald Trump himself (link). The sitting President of the United States cannot be arrested by law enforcement or tried by the Judicial Branch. But as they explain, the purpose of this indictment is to try to kickstart the impeachment process in Congress.
That may sound unlikely, considering Trumps own Republican Party has a majority in both the House and Senate. But my own stated view all along has been that if if damning enough evidence against Trump surfaces in the Russia scandal such that his approval rating falls far enough, the Congressional Republicans in moderate states and districts will have to consider moving forward with the impeachment process in order to protect their own chances of reelection in the midterms. In such case the GOP would put its own interests before Trump. And only around 10% of the Republicans in the House would need to join House Democrats to form the simple majority vote required to begin impeachment hearings.
I ran this evenings report past a retired attorney, who found it legally valid on its face. So I find this credible, both from a logical standpoint, and more importantly, based on the fact that the inside sources of Mensch and Taylor have consistently proven to be correct. The news outlets that have been ignoring their sources have ended up being months late to important stories. Republican strategist Rick Wilson is vouching for them both this evening, based on their track record of inside sourcing (link). So now we see where this goes, but its clear things have accelerated in response to Trumps firing of James Comey.
http://www.palmerreport.com/opinion/report-fisa-court-issues-sealed-indictment-against-donald-trump/2810/
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Taylor and Mensch now report, based on separate sources, a sealed indictment against DT. [View all]
pnwmom
May 2017
OP
You would need a shit ton of Repugnants in the House and Senate to agree to do that
cstanleytech
May 2017
#89
Ya if they all voted to shield him but if the majority in the House vote to impeach all they need
cstanleytech
May 2017
#135
No getting my hopes up just yet. Have more faith in the financial subpoenas. Follow the money!
Feathery Scout
May 2017
#3
so what, even if true, you still have to have the GOP caucus willing to start the process...
Thomas Hurt
May 2017
#5
The Supremacy clause does not prohibit prosecution of a sitting president nt
marylandblue
May 2017
#6
I had been focused on the statement in the Patribotics blog and just posted the tweets
pnwmom
May 2017
#23
I wonder if by "supremacy clause" he may have been (wrongly, I think) referring to...
thesquanderer
May 2017
#87
I'm wondering that as well. Louise did NOT say FISA court granted the indictment in the article. n/t
MelissaB
May 2017
#25
Well, why doesn't the blog and tweet identify the courts where these indictments are emanating from?
onenote
May 2017
#96
Bill Palmer - the purpose of this indictment is to try to kickstart the impeachment process
womanofthehills
May 2017
#18
So is this why we had half a dozen threads today condemning Mensch and Taylor?
Mr. Ected
May 2017
#19
Taylor said that in his tweet, but it was not repeated in the post in Mensch's Patribotics,
pnwmom
May 2017
#27
I think that is just a layperson's way of acknowledging that the 3 branches are co-equal
pnwmom
May 2017
#33
From an attorney: FISA court can convene a grand jury who can issue a true bill.
MelissaB
May 2017
#36
Even if untrue, it's spreading across the Internet and will make Trump freak out!
Doodley
May 2017
#58
"But to flat out think that there could be no indictment for impeachment is naive"
jberryhill
May 2017
#140
If I or anyone else wants to read Mensch and Taylor, it's really NOYDB.
Madam45for2923
May 2017
#125
If it's true, it'll be on a legit news site, like CNN. I don't know this Mensch.
Honeycombe8
May 2017
#67
It took 5 months for most of the American media to confirm her story about the October FISA
pnwmom
May 2017
#95
The BBC report doesn't mention Mensch or use the same source(s). It doesn't mention
Honeycombe8
May 2017
#131
You're right, the BBC report didn't mention Mensch. But it DID confirm the FISA
pnwmom
May 2017
#133
Here's a Guardian piece that summarizes the confirmations of Mensch's FISA story.
pnwmom
May 2017
#122
The Guardian story is just repeating that "Mensch says...." So it's not a verified direct news story
Honeycombe8
May 2017
#123
When do you expect they might confirm her claim that BLM is a Russian Front?
jberryhill
May 2017
#145
Definition of "sealed indictment" for anyone who doesn't understand (like me)...
lamp_shade
May 2017
#97
Keith thinks there was something this and as he points out they were right about
Demsrule86
May 2017
#109
Multiple sources are reporting that Bigfoot + the Loch Ness Monster killed JFK and were behind 9/11
YoungDemCA
May 2017
#119
Would the FBI have the autonomy to perform an investigation on Trump..all the way to
Feathery Scout
May 2017
#128
Congress wouldn't disclose details of a classified investigation to the public.
pnwmom
May 2017
#129