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Demit

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29. I agree wholeheartedly with the author on J. D. Vance and Hillbilly Elegy.

Sun May 14, 2017, 09:34 AM

May 2017

Whether it was deliberate, or out of laziness, JD Vance completely ignored who exploited the people in Appalachia & perpetuated their poverty. Also the efforts of government and organizations who came in and tried to alleviate it. It was a bad book. There are many better ones.

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This Appalachia Life: My Mother Wasn't Trash [View all] ehrnst May 2017 OP

I have not read Hillbilly Elegy, but I interpret the excerpt differently than the article author. Squinch May 2017 #1

This is just as much magical thinking as the Ayn Randians n2doc May 2017 #7

"You expect them to get on the internet, wade through all the FUD and lies being spewed, workinclasszero May 2017 #25

As one of my favorite professers often said ... mrsadm May 2017 #70

Agree workinclasszero May 2017 #72

They get their information from very few sources, and if we are going to have any respect Squinch May 2017 #31

There is no doubt that WellDarn May 2017 #75

+1!!! The same goes for many here in Texas! Dustlawyer May 2017 #8

"bringing clean energy industry jobs in to replace the lost coal and oil jobs" was never more than WinkyDink May 2017 #15

the kentucky coal museum is moving towards use of solar JI7 May 2017 #21

The clean energy industries add more jobs to the economy in two years than the entire number Squinch May 2017 #32

Let me be specific: Would you, as a former coal miner looking over your despoiled W. Va. WinkyDink May 2017 #69

Yes, of course -nt Bradical79 May 2017 #63

I can see why Hillbilly Elegy rubs some people the wrong way Sen. Walter Sobchak May 2017 #57

No it isn't. PETRUS May 2017 #60

K&R WellDarn May 2017 #2

I've read the article at the link JustAnotherGen May 2017 #3

yes. we never hear this type of stuff about poor minorities JI7 May 2017 #44

This article has a lot of truth in it. n/t ms liberty May 2017 #4

Salute for your perspective bucolic_frolic May 2017 #5

I wonder why it's so much easier WellDarn May 2017 #6

we do blame them. that's why we dismiss the economic anxiety argument JI7 May 2017 #14

I am having trouble WellDarn May 2017 #22

the message that appeals to them is the same. JI7 May 2017 #23

Do you mean the same WellDarn May 2017 #24

no the message that appeals to them is make America white JI7 May 2017 #26

Hillary won the popular vote by 3 million. MoonRiver May 2017 #71

She did indeed WellDarn May 2017 #74

Did you see any posts saying we SHOULD change our message to attract upper middle class whites? Squinch May 2017 #34

Perhaps because WellDarn May 2017 #38

In what way? Squinch May 2017 #42

Let's look at just a small sample WellDarn May 2017 #47

What the everloving fuck??? This is bonkers. Squinch May 2017 #49

that sure was revealing JI7 May 2017 #51

It was. I was going to PM you to see if I was crazy. Willie frickin' Horton no less. Squinch May 2017 #52

I'm going to make this as clear as I can WellDarn May 2017 #53

You blew it with the Willie Horton comment. Give it up. ETA: Actually, let me point out your Squinch May 2017 #54

Do you know the difference between the military and military action? WellDarn May 2017 #55

Really, now it's just sad. Squinch May 2017 #64

Did you say something? n/t WellDarn May 2017 #65

I haven't until now, but I will Steven Maurer May 2017 #66

That's also inspiring WellDarn May 2017 #67

dreamers are the kids of those working in fields and other hard work JI7 May 2017 #56

You're evading the question WellDarn May 2017 #58

dreamers is about policy . you are the one that ignores it JI7 May 2017 #59

Cannot deny either one of those statements WellDarn May 2017 #61

I just read the entire article. democrank May 2017 #9

i recall reading that poverty was never a subject brought up in any debate in '16 KG May 2017 #40

Very well-said. Kath2 May 2017 #10

This resonates with me mrs_p May 2017 #11

Sissy Spacek narrates a documentary "Appalachia" that delves into the history of the Hestia May 2017 #12

I recommend this post, but don't agree some of his conclusions. mountain grammy May 2017 #13

Maybe when you're not worrying about your lack of money for food and medicine? WinkyDink May 2017 #16

there are poor black amd latino people that don't blame poor whites JI7 May 2017 #17

Who do we blame? WellDarn May 2017 #50

worrying about lack of money for food and medicine mountain grammy May 2017 #19

Very well said and close to home for me... llmart May 2017 #18

NO ONE is trash heaven05 May 2017 #20

4 generations behind mine...... northoftheborder May 2017 #27

Nancy Isenberg wrote the definitive book for me BeyondGeography May 2017 #28

I agree wholeheartedly with the author on J. D. Vance and Hillbilly Elegy. Demit May 2017 #29

This seems appropriate.. Docreed2003 May 2017 #30

I am from Harlan County and my family has been there since it was Harlan County & before. William769 May 2017 #37

I'm disappointed as well William... Docreed2003 May 2017 #39

They need to research Left-over May 2017 #62

Kick democrank May 2017 #33

This is an excellent piece, thank you for sharing... Docreed2003 May 2017 #35

but they don't want to be grouped in with poor blacks hispanics and other non whites JI7 May 2017 #45

I know...the question is why?? Docreed2003 May 2017 #46

Pardon me? WellDarn May 2017 #48

Thank you for posting this. QC May 2017 #36

too much emphasis on the 'middle class' . i recall reading that poverty was never brought up in any KG May 2017 #41

democrats do get more votes from the poor than republican JI7 May 2017 #43

I just got finished with the book and I had some issues with him, also. PinkTiger May 2017 #68

A big part of the problem is how poor white people embrace ignorance snooper2 May 2017 #73