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Hortensis

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58. Exactly! In a heavily red state Manchin votes with Dems.

Mon May 15, 2017, 08:42 AM

May 2017

That is a real achievement, and Manchin is a real asset who needs to be protected.

It seems many may be seriously overestimating potential conservative support for progressive populism.

Very significant percentages of the conservatives who voted for Bernie in the primaries of those states where they could did so as Clinton spoilers. Exit polls consistently revealed many had absolutely no intention of voting for him in the general if he won.

Sure, as a charismatic left-wing populist leader, Bernie did pick up some genuine conservative support, but exit polls and studies show that it was fatally smaller than imagined. As it almost certainly would be in any attempt to fill Manchin's seat with someone running on similar positions.

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Meet Joe Manchin's primary opponent, Paula Swearengin. You're gonna like her! [View all] Eccho May 2017 OP

Any relation Jacquette May 2017 #1

My first thought. bathroommonkey76 May 2017 #2

We're gonna hear a lot of 'c*cksucker' bandied about if so superpatriotman May 2017 #13

Hell no nycbos May 2017 #3

Yes, but Eccho May 2017 #4

So we would get another Republican 6 years from now and lose the seat for decades at that point. stevenleser May 2017 #8

Why would we get another Republican? Eccho May 2017 #15

What about that question and its obvious answer don't you get? nt stevenleser May 2017 #19

It is not a question, and the so-called obvious answer is merely your guess. guillaumeb May 2017 #28

No, and no. stevenleser May 2017 #31

So heavily gerrymandered N. Carolina is suddenly in play? guillaumeb May 2017 #35

The Senate seats aren't gerrymandered dsc May 2017 #38

You beat me to it. nt stevenleser May 2017 #42

+1!!! THIS Dustlawyer May 2017 #53

-1, No. nt stevenleser May 2017 #59

C'mon an environmentalist running in WVA? She's a shoe-in. BannonsLiver May 2017 #16

I really wonder about some of these folks. stevenleser May 2017 #20

And one of the biggest reasons democrats have lost in this area JI7 May 2017 #27

We lost most of our "Dinos" to the Rethugs, having helped some of them out with primary attacks. pnwmom May 2017 #23

No, they lost on their own mvd May 2017 #25

That is just a lazy argument. Plenty of progressives have run in those states and been shellacked. stevenleser May 2017 #34

I'm with you and always will be mvd May 2017 #26

Yes but??? sheshe2 May 2017 #52

Exactly! In a heavily red state Manchin votes with Dems. Hortensis May 2017 #58

Sounds good. If she takes off and upsets him.. mvd May 2017 #5

This will not help the Democratic Party to take back Congress in 2018 SecularMotion May 2017 #6

What if Manchin switches parties after the election? Or even before? Eccho May 2017 #7

What if every Democrat switches and Republicans have every seat? stevenleser May 2017 #10

Are you in WV? Eccho May 2017 #12

Is there something besides residence there that you think makes you an expert? stevenleser May 2017 #18

The Sanders connection is toxic for some at DU. guillaumeb May 2017 #29

Sure, you can always make an argument sound bad when you use a strawman version of it. nt stevenleser May 2017 #33

No strawman argument. guillaumeb May 2017 #36

Its a strawman. No one ever said no Democrat should ever be challenged in a Southern or Western stevenleser May 2017 #41

Which leads inevitably to your earlier comment. guillaumeb May 2017 #63

Nope, I wrote a comment about a specific situation, you made a strawman out of it. nt stevenleser May 2017 #68

Could Democrats Nominate Their Own Christine ODonnell in 2018? SecularMotion May 2017 #11

I don't agree with that at all. mvd May 2017 #14

And what has usually happened? Proud Liberal Dem May 2017 #60

Defiantly not nycbos May 2017 #17

If Manchin was going to switch parties Proud Liberal Dem May 2017 #65

I know, this is just ridiculous. nt stevenleser May 2017 #9

Dems are in no position to risk a sure seat to a far lefty who oasis May 2017 #21

I wouldn't assume it would damage Manchin's chances Jim Lane May 2017 #40

Of course it would. We have seen this movie before, haven't we? stevenleser May 2017 #44

Depending on the degree of negative campaigning Manchin's opponent oasis May 2017 #45

LOL JI7 May 2017 #22

Great! Explain how a Berniecrat will win in a General Election. brooklynite May 2017 #24

I grew up in WV, am very tuned in to the politics there. phleshdef May 2017 #30

Right?? wildeyed May 2017 #43

what are her chances in the Primary ? JI7 May 2017 #49

Meet Joe Manchin's daughter GeoWilliam750 May 2017 #32

Message deleted by DU the Administrators Staph May 2017 #46

What is Sanders trying to do? Why is he campaigning for whomever is running against the incumbant Thinkingabout May 2017 #37

I don't think he's done using the DNC, this is bizarre... bettyellen May 2017 #50

After what you added, I oppose her and will support Manchin in the primary. Foamfollower May 2017 #39

What a great idea. Primary a Diem and hand it to the GOPee. No Thanks! Stinky The Clown May 2017 #47

Run for the House bottomofthehill May 2017 #48

I actually really like this idea! Jno_Gilmor_ May 2017 #55

I don't think her message sells in West VA bottomofthehill May 2017 #57

+++++ JHan May 2017 #56

this is where over 40 percent of democrats voted for a prison inmate over Obama JI7 May 2017 #51

It would take a miracle for her to beat Manchin. Tatiana May 2017 #54

No I don't like her...primarying Manchin in a red state is the height of stupidity. Demsrule86 May 2017 #61

I expect Manchin to switch parties if the Democrats get 51 Senators alarimer May 2017 #62

If Democrats win the majority and he is really "on the fence" Proud Liberal Dem May 2017 #66

Does she have a statehouse or Congressional seat she could run for first? Proud Liberal Dem May 2017 #64

Yah, best of luck to her in her campaign. MineralMan May 2017 #67