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Yupster

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39. Yes, Grant was pushing Lincoln to do what he thought he wanted to do anyway
Wed May 17, 2017, 10:49 AM
May 2017

Congress was completely radicalized at this point and wouldn't accept any compromise from anyone.

For Grant you have to look at the war situation. In February of 1865, the war had become trench warfare much like World War I. The Confederates were dug into the trenches around Petersburg and Richmond. War was blowing each other up with artillery. There wasn't any technique or art left. Grant could see how it would end. The south couldn't replace its losses and its men were being mangled and killed in handfulls while the north could replace its losses until the inevitable happened and the lines would snap. Grant wasn't at all a bloodthirsty man and he wanted to do everything in his power to avoid the horrible casualties coming in every day for no reason other than to run the south out of men. The top Confederate generals saw it just as well as Grant did.

Lee did everything he could to retain some freedom of movement for his army, but he was good at math. Lee's senior corps commander James Longstreet was good friends with Grant and they remained in contact throughout much of the siege. If it was up to the generals, the war would have ended earlier, but Lincoln wouldn't stop until unity was restored, and Davis didn't believe he had the Constitutional power to negotiate his nation out of existence even if he wanted to.

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This is local, so it jumped out at me. Yonnie3 May 2017 #10
My point is the absurd rationalization of racism ProudLib72 May 2017 #12
Ha! I was worried someone might think I was condoning them. Yonnie3 May 2017 #15
The south truly was devastated by the war Yupster May 2017 #17
Most of those there are from elsewhere... Demsrule86 May 2017 #22
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Yes, but blue mostly near the city. Yonnie3 May 2017 #27
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Isn't every age Yupster May 2017 #18
I think he was trying to rationalize something in a different time. kentuck May 2017 #3
By the end of his life Lincoln did. Thaddeus Stevens was always there. DemocratSinceBirth May 2017 #4
We would have been treestar May 2017 #5
Today is not all that different ProudLib72 May 2017 #9
I like your posts, but disagree on this point: raccoon May 2017 #29
I didn't explain that correctly in the previous post ProudLib72 May 2017 #32
Just before the end of the Civil War, Yupster May 2017 #33
Wow. Now that is interesting. nt raccoon May 2017 #35
It was a very interesting tid-bit of US history Yupster May 2017 #37
What did Lincoln (and congress) make of Grant pulling rank? ProudLib72 May 2017 #38
Yes, Grant was pushing Lincoln to do what he thought he wanted to do anyway Yupster May 2017 #39
Historians call it Yupster May 2017 #20
Why were there generals like Grant who truly believed in the cause they were fighting for? DemocratSinceBirth May 2017 #23
Lee was an unreconstructed racist. Buzz cook May 2017 #11
I agree ProudLib72 May 2017 #13
Revisionists keep trotting out the "arm the slaves" letter Buzz cook May 2017 #16
Lee wanted to arm the slaves because Yupster May 2017 #19
He was a traitor, plain and simple, and quite frankly, what we now call white priviledge is... brush May 2017 #28
It was only fitting that his inherited estate became Arlinton Cemetary. Scruffy1 May 2017 #14
Which general do you think would have done significantly better than Lee Yupster May 2017 #21
My Confederate ancestor survived Pickett's charge... VOX May 2017 #25
Interesting post. That's good that you know so much about him. raccoon May 2017 #30
True. He wasn't on the muster sheet until April, 1862... VOX May 2017 #34
Sadly, it wasn't only a Southern ideology. Caliman73 May 2017 #31
Lee was speaking from the ignorance engendered by his privilege. n/t Orsino May 2017 #36
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