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Yesterday I met with a group of my male friends - all of us in our mid 60's to 72. We hung together our whole lives. We met at a pizza joint for pizza's and beer and like any group of guys our age we talked about our health status, our children and grandchildren; and what we're doing to keep active in our retirement.
Unfortunately - the elephant in the room couldn't be avoided and we got into a political discussion of the events leading up to where we are today. Now we all lived through the Kennedy's and King assassination's. Watergate. Iran-Contra. 9/11 and everything in between. We've seen and experienced it all. Politically - we're all on the same page. Solid Dems with some dissent on some of the things the Dems do or don't do. But pretty much solid Dems
The conversation came around to what our current situation compares to - and to a man - we all said in it beyond comparison to all of what we experienced. We are paving new ground here. And it is scarier than anything we've experienced in our lives.
One chap tried to draw comparisons to 9/11. Though we all agreed over 3000 Americans died and we were attacked within our borders and that it was a watershed event in the history of our country - again to a man - it is felt that the Russians interfering with our election was a bigger attack than 9/11. It goes right to the core of our democracy and what our military all through our history fought for to keep sacred. We came to the conclusion that it is bigger than 9/11.
The same chap then went on to bring MIHOP and LIHOP into the conversation. (made it happen on purpose and let it happen on purpose)
He likened MIHOP to collusion by Trump, Trump's team and Repugs. That they willfully involved themselves with the Russians to sway the election into Trump and the Repugs. He likened LIHOP to - well they maybe didn't collude with the Russians - but they did nothing to dissuade them from interfering and took advantage of the situation.
The conversation went on to independent investigations and that seemed to be the way the events discussed above were always handled. We all came to the conclusion that this is what should happen now to get to the bottom of the Russian/Trump thingy.
The fact that no matter what kind of circumstantial evidence or coincidences have occurred throughout this unfolding scandal; no matter what Trump steps in that looks like obstruction of justice - the Repugs always circle the wagons and come to Trump's aid and protect him.
One of our guys - posed the following - that this thingy must be so big and so many people must be involved in this Russian thingy that they are doing everything in their power to obfuscate, stall and cover-up.
We finished our pizza's and beer. Hugged each other til our next meeting and went our separate ways. Needless to say - I didn't sleep well last night and that lack of sleep and worry caused me to put this post together.
I'm curious as to whether or not you think a group of old-timers are just out of their minds like Trump or if we're on to something.
I would like to hear your comments.