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DCKit

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25. As much as I'd like to agree with you, it's security theater.

Fri Jul 6, 2012, 06:51 AM

Jul 2012

Anyone who really wants to get through and crash a plane is going to do so.

It's all bullshit, and we're putting up with it. It's like the old say about locks - they're for honest people.

Ben Franklin had it right - those who would surrender their freedom for security, deserve neither.

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Police State Update: Passengers could be asked to give drink samples to TSA (post-checkpoint) [View all] stockholmer Jul 2012 OP

Personally I have always thought there should be random checks beyond the checkpoints. yellowcanine Jul 2012 #1

Many? How about practically none of them! hobbit709 Jul 2012 #4

Oh please the security thugs who just profile MattBaggins Jul 2012 #5

question Skittles Jul 2012 #6

Engineering solutions MattBaggins Jul 2012 #9

sounds good Skittles Jul 2012 #10

As much as I'd like to agree with you, it's security theater. DCKit Jul 2012 #25

The last time my family and I flew MorningGlow Jul 2012 #29

You can do that type of security without harsh profiling. yellowcanine Jul 2012 #11

Just like security checks in America MattBaggins Jul 2012 #13

I have been checked in the U.S and Europe and am a white male. I have been randomly stopped yellowcanine Jul 2012 #14

have you been in an airport? there have been random checks beyond the checkpoints for a decade! CreekDog Jul 2012 #8

Very few in the U.S. More in Europe. And more checkpoints in Europe and Japan also. yellowcanine Jul 2012 #12

there is no comparison to the amount of police presence in Sweden versus the USA stockholmer Jul 2012 #18

I flew through Munich recently. More security checkpoints, questions than I have ever encountered yellowcanine Jul 2012 #19

the whole western world, with a few pockets of exceptions, is likely going down 1984-style stockholmer Jul 2012 #20

Yes. Very German also. No smiles. I sensed it would not be a good idea to even hint at a joke. yellowcanine Jul 2012 #23

So you want to rape the Fifth Amendment in exhange for the Fourth? jberryhill Jul 2012 #26

Wow, is that what I said? yellowcanine Jul 2012 #28

Well, what kind of 'casual conversations' are you advocating? muriel_volestrangler Jul 2012 #30

Yes, it is what you imply jberryhill Jul 2012 #32

I implied no such thing. Note I said "well trained agents" which means they would know yellowcanine Jul 2012 #36

"what they can ask and what they can't" jberryhill Jul 2012 #37

I know what the 5th amendment says, thanks. Ok. "What they should ask and what they should not" yellowcanine Jul 2012 #38

Okay... so... jberryhill Jul 2012 #39

"At what point do you draw a line in the sand and just say 'NO MORE' to the goons?" leftyohiolib Jul 2012 #2

Does pouring it on their head count? Arctic Dave Jul 2012 #3

I wonder how long that would last if all passengers avebury Jul 2012 #7

But they're a captive market - they can't bring food and beverages in with them muriel_volestrangler Jul 2012 #31

Bet Jennifer would blame the government right away treestar Jul 2012 #15

another good reason to drive...nt littlewolf Jul 2012 #16

I fear flamingdem Jul 2012 #17

cavity search, ages 6 and up stockholmer Jul 2012 #21

craziness Liberal_in_LA Jul 2012 #22

The ongoing campaign to prove the TSA and Fatherland Security need to exist. DCKit Jul 2012 #24

This is a lot Aerows Jul 2012 #27

If the United States were really interested in security, the first thing we would do is RC Jul 2012 #33

I've traveled around the world davidpdx Jul 2012 #34

How much of TSA is run privately and the extra testing is to bilk taxpayers? LiberalFighter Jul 2012 #35