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Motown_Johnny

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20. I agree with some of that.
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 10:38 AM
Jul 2012

I think he was going to rule with the conservatives to strike down the entire law. He came to realize just how insane that was so he cooked up a compromise. He didn't uphold the commerce clause and instead upheld the law under the government's power to tax. Then he rewrote the medicaid expansion to again limit the federal government's power.

This does help the conservatives by limiting some of the federal government's powers. It also creates a talking point about taxes.

The traps he has laid for the (R)s are this:

1) Rmoney is screwed on calling penalties taxes. He tries to claim that he balanced the budget in MA by not raising taxes. But if penalties (and fees) are now considered taxes then he did raise taxes in MA by around half a billion dollars. This is devastating to his central message.

2) (R) Governors now need to either accept the Medicaid expansion or turn down federal money that would go to help the citizens of their state. They are damned if they do and damned if they don't.

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I believe she does...100% jorno67 Jul 2012 #1
Then why didn't the other mopes go along with it too? n/t Cary Jul 2012 #2
It only took one. HopeHoops Jul 2012 #4
Perhaps but if they were conspiring, as is suggested here, then why not a unanimous decision? Cary Jul 2012 #5
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say Roberts was actually doing his job for once. HopeHoops Jul 2012 #8
Clearly he was not being a rank partisan hack, Cary Jul 2012 #10
Agreed. But don't forget having a Senate that will try to block all of the appointments. HopeHoops Jul 2012 #11
How far will the pukes go? Cary Jul 2012 #13
It's only going to get worse in Obama's second term. They'll do anything to derail his goals. HopeHoops Jul 2012 #14
They value their politics and ideology over the welfare of our nation. Cary Jul 2012 #15
To be fair, in many ways there is no difference. When it comes to caring about people... HopeHoops Jul 2012 #18
If there isn't a difference then why are the Koch Brothers and other oligarchs investing so much Cary Jul 2012 #19
I did NOT say there wasn't a difference. I said there wasn't in some respects. HopeHoops Jul 2012 #21
I am not saying that you said there wasn't a difference Cary Jul 2012 #23
My wife was elected to a school board - thankless job. As for anti-government... HopeHoops Jul 2012 #24
He also saved Obama from what would have been the biggest setback of his Presidency. Nye Bevan Jul 2012 #3
Why does he need a position? Cary Jul 2012 #6
It may be worse than that Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2012 #7
There are other taxes in the ACA bornskeptic Jul 2012 #17
The bill they used had passed the House of Representatives. Bolo Boffin Jul 2012 #22
It depends on what she means by "precedent" ashling Jul 2012 #9
I made a post about this, there is also one other thing. Puzzledtraveller Jul 2012 #12
Roberts is the Chief Justice, and Chiefs are judged on a different scale hifiguy Jul 2012 #16
I agree with some of that. Motown_Johnny Jul 2012 #20
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