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SunsetDreams

(8,571 posts)
48. Oh I see,
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 12:45 PM
Jul 2012

I was just going off of your previous post veering into the topic of Breast Cancer and screening for Women.

But hold on. Suppose your doctor tells you a different story. First he explains that a recent, large-scale US study looked at the effect of annual PSA screening on more than 75,000 men, and found no benefit at all. A separate large study in Europe showed a very small benefit, but only in 2 of the 7 countries participating in the study. Suppose your doctor also explained that if you have a positive PSA test, there’s an 80% chance that it will be false – that you won’t have cancer.

Suppose your doctor also explained that “PSA-based screening leads to a substantial overdiagnosis of prostate tumors” and that treatment usually requires surgery. The effects of treatment are serious: 20-30% of men treated with surgery and radiation suffer from long-term incontinence and erectile dysfunction.

....

Why did the urologists react so strongly? The answer appears to be simple: money. Urologists make a lot of money on prostate cancer treatments. The USPSTF estimated that in the first 20 years of PSA testing, 1 million additional men were treated as a result of screening. And if the surgery is unnecessary, you don’t get a refund.

So who are you going to believe? The Preventive Task Force report presents a thorough review, laying all the details on the table. Their members don’t make a profit from prostate surgeries. Their report simply more credible than the knee-jerk reaction from the urologists’ association. I’ll let the Task Force have the last word:

The harms of PSA-based screening for prostate cancer include a high rate of false-positive results and accompanying negative psychological effects, high rate of complications associated with diagnostic biopsy, and—most important—a risk for overdiagnosis coupled with overtreatment. Depending on the method used, treatments for prostate cancer carry the risk for death, cardiovascular events, urinary incontinence, erectile dysfunction, and bowel dysfunction. Many of these harms are common and persistent.”


http://www.forbes.com/sites/stevensalzberg/2012/06/24/psa-tests-might-hurt-a-lot-more-than-you-think/

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Elizabeth Edwards?? Control-Z Jul 2012 #1
I hope he's flooded with wake-up calls Ilsa Jul 2012 #2
Check your facts...No more routine checkups anyway! ElizabethB Jul 2012 #3
Yeah, damn that Obama! Iggo Jul 2012 #4
It's not Obama's "Preventive Services Task Force" OKNancy Jul 2012 #5
You are wrong again ElizabethB Jul 2012 #13
preventative medicine is not FFRREEEE under obamacare. mopinko Jul 2012 #6
That's awesome ElizabethB Jul 2012 #14
can you provide me with a link stating that they aren't? mopinko Jul 2012 #16
Yes, but have you heard of Google? It's really helpful :) ElizabethB Jul 2012 #17
it doesn't say anything about insurance coverage. mopinko Jul 2012 #18
Once again...please try google ElizabethB Jul 2012 #19
this is how it works on du- you make a statement mopinko Jul 2012 #49
Here you go, this shows they will be covered in routine checkups. uppityperson Jul 2012 #33
They will be covered. cyberswede Jul 2012 #34
Yay for more Faux Snooze misinformation!! BumRushDaShow Jul 2012 #8
I'm not quoting Fox ElizabethB Jul 2012 #20
Link? trumad Jul 2012 #9
Tell us more about the death panels that don't really exist! Arkana Jul 2012 #11
Okay, but this isn't just "politics" for me ElizabethB Jul 2012 #21
That is not in the ACA. Ruby the Liberal Jul 2012 #22
It's not fear mongering...it's reality. ElizabethB Jul 2012 #23
How's this? cyberswede Jul 2012 #25
For crying outloud....Thanks for proving my point! ElizabethB Jul 2012 #35
Unnecessary to screen EVERYONE. How does showing covered screenings mean they won't be covered? uppityperson Jul 2012 #36
Okay in Baby steps ElizabethB Jul 2012 #41
Your link goes to 1995 Guide. Here's current info on PSA tests, etc, from uspstf uppityperson Jul 2012 #26
Sorry for the error but it says the same thing anyway!!! ElizabethB Jul 2012 #28
Not for everyone. There are reasons why. Did you read those? uppityperson Jul 2012 #31
Oh for Pete's sake... cyberswede Jul 2012 #32
Yes and I responded his post as well---that just proves my point ElizabethB Jul 2012 #42
uspstf on breast cancer screenings... uppityperson Jul 2012 #27
And like I said before ElizabethB Jul 2012 #29
"The decision to start regular, biennial screening mammography before the age of 50 should be an... uppityperson Jul 2012 #30
But ACA will cover them. nt uppityperson Jul 2012 #37
Perhaps that is because Breast Cancer SunsetDreams Jul 2012 #40
DRE and PCA3 are 2 other tests, PSA is not "the ONLY test". uppityperson Jul 2012 #24
You should probably stop drinking the red stuff in your thermometer. Arkana Jul 2012 #47
Links & Views ElizabethB Jul 2012 #12
You don't like the fact that Obamacare will continue to cover psa and mammograms? Seriously? uppityperson Jul 2012 #38
you are misinforming people ElizabethB Jul 2012 #43
And evidently Republicans don't die of acute stupidity. hobbit709 Jul 2012 #7
I'm sure Mr. Collins is drawing on years of medical experience Arkana Jul 2012 #10
Knowledge is dangerous and Ignorance is cheap $$$ ElizabethB Jul 2012 #15
Since it is in the ACA that ins companies cover them, how is it healthcare rationing? uppityperson Jul 2012 #39
Why are you doing this? ElizabethB Jul 2012 #44
Oh goodness here: SunsetDreams Jul 2012 #45
ummm yeah...but the Topic of the thread was the PSA test for Prostate Cancer ElizabethB Jul 2012 #46
Oh I see, SunsetDreams Jul 2012 #48
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