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frazzled

(18,402 posts)
22. Politically not of this moment
Sun May 21, 2017, 04:55 PM
May 2017

One would be naive to think otherwise. People always respond to "policy" based questions in ways that support Democratic agendas, but these almost never erase the electoral divisions (take abortion, for example) or translate into victories. Those same people will vote for Republicans nonetheless--because, for the large part, Americans have no coherent political philosophies. Sad, but overwhelmingly true.

When you look back at the agonizing fight to get the ACA, and the current move to abolish it (not to mention our current minority status and a potential tenuous majority in the future), you cannot possibly imagine that suddenly we can implement wholesale the very game-changing policy of universal Medicare in one fell swoop. The tax and premium issues alone would be huge, and the eradication of the private insurance industry seismic. People with current employer-based plans would not necessarily be happy; there could be great resistance.

As Donald Trump found out, gee, health care is hard. You don't just snap your fingers and change things because you want them or they're a good idea. The better route would be to save the ACA, strengthen and amend it, work at adding a public option ... all of which would eventually, over time, pave the way to something like Medicare for All.

Depends, HUGELY depends on the following: Eliot Rosewater May 2017 #1
Tiring of the binary-thinking ideologues at commondreams. emulatorloo May 2017 #2
Thank you! You are so right on about this! skylucy May 2017 #10
+1000 (nt) ehrnst Jul 2017 #25
I am giving the side eye to any one talking about "primary-ing" any Dem if I don't see them bettyellen Jul 2017 #32
Nope, anyone working toward losing us seats right now is an idiot. bettyellen May 2017 #3
Counting down, though, till we see the first person who tries to say that if you don't Squinch May 2017 #14
Screw that - the resistance is easily 75% women- and part of that is how fed up we are about being bettyellen May 2017 #16
As soon as I saw COMMON DREAMS, I stopped pqying attention. brooklynite May 2017 #4
I do not like Common Dreams and feel they are part of the problem not the solution... Demsrule86 May 2017 #19
I'd rather have our resources fight Republicans than other Democrats NobodyHere May 2017 #5
THANK YOU! (nt) ehrnst Jul 2017 #28
No, because ... frazzled May 2017 #6
". . things that are not of this moment . ." FairWinds May 2017 #8
It doesn't matter how many support it...it won't happen with the GOP in charge. Demsrule86 May 2017 #20
Politically not of this moment frazzled May 2017 #22
Of course they answer healthcare for all creeksneakers2 May 2017 #23
Brogressives? Wow. elehhhhna May 2017 #17
But note that the Tea Party does not hesitate a second . . FairWinds May 2017 #7
Anyone advocating Medicare for All has to be explicit about how it's funded muriel_volestrangler May 2017 #9
What if a Democrat comes out for nationalization of the hospitals... mwooldri May 2017 #11
People would consider it socialism and we would lose...take it gradually...we achieved a monumental Demsrule86 May 2017 #21
well, as a matter of fact, I get my own healthcare from . . FairWinds May 2017 #24
Universal health care should be the goal. ehrnst Jul 2017 #27
There are only a tiny handful of Dems in CA who don't support single payer Starry Messenger May 2017 #12
Would you share the statistics on the number of Dems in CA ehrnst Jul 2017 #30
Do you mean who voted on it? Starry Messenger Jul 2017 #34
Of course not. That would be stupid. Iggo May 2017 #13
Yes, bashing Democrats is exactly what we need to win 2018... (nt) ehrnst Jul 2017 #31
No Gothmog May 2017 #15
NO and no...no... do not primary sitting Dems...not all Dems want single payer...I would love it but Demsrule86 May 2017 #18
Well, they were going to take money from Medicaid and Medicare to finance it. ehrnst Jul 2017 #26
Bashing Democrats who don't meet a specific politician's litmus test on which of many ehrnst Jul 2017 #29
There are no primaries in California. David__77 Jul 2017 #33
Nope! spicysista Jul 2017 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author ehrnst Sep 2017 #36
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