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Jopin Klobe

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24. "I see myself not bothering to vote, because what point is there ..." ...

Reply to SoCalMusicLover (Original post)

Wed May 24, 2017, 01:03 AM

May 2017

... because, if someone or some group of people figure out the con ...

... your name will not be in the number to count for the win ...

... you give up hope, you give up life ...

... never give up ... because evil is counting on you to do that very thing ...

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Was The Election Actually RIGGED? [View all] SoCalMusicLover May 2017 OP

YAS! And they will continue to do it. nt LaydeeBug May 2017 #1

Read through unhackthevote.com SticksnStones May 2017 #48

I've been following him for a little while now LaydeeBug May 2017 #60

With plausible data to back his findings... SticksnStones May 2017 #62

They baited us and our naive spokespeople Laura PourMeADrink May 2017 #2

This Hekate May 2017 #19

!!! Alice11111 May 2017 #30

In retrospect, that was a slam-dunk for the Russians. Chemisse May 2017 #53

+1 uponit7771 May 2017 #69

U. BET. CHA! dchill May 2017 #3

With all the noise drumpf made during the campaign, Hayduke Bomgarte May 2017 #4

Mitch McConnell knew it, too. 3catwoman3 May 2017 #32

"The fix was in." LenaBaby61 May 2017 #43

I want to see McConnell in an orange jumpsuit even more than Trump. -nt CrispyQ May 2017 #68

You're absolutely right onetexan May 2017 #45

I will keep on voting bdamomma May 2017 #5

I was with you 100% until you said you might not bother to vote. tinrobot May 2017 #6

"If this Electronic Voting Bullshit continues, I see myself not bothering to vote,..." brooklynite May 2017 #7

For sure, there were active methods used to prevent spicific groups of people from voting, napi21 May 2017 #8

heck, YEAH! furtheradu May 2017 #9

Guess they just slept through 2006,2008 and 2012? brooklynite May 2017 #11

I find it MORE than disturbing (weird ) furtheradu May 2017 #14

maybe due to the lack of any proof? frankieallen May 2017 #66

I also believe the Russians have been meddling with our elections since 2000 as well... TheDebbieDee May 2017 #23

+1 C Moon May 2017 #36

Yes they did. NRaleighLiberal May 2017 #10

Yes, it was. We have to jail everyone involved to ensure it doesn't happen again. onecaliberal May 2017 #12

Easy to say but ... DaleFromWPB May 2017 #59

McConnell and Ryan were told in August and did nothing, Nunez was clearly involved in cover up. onecaliberal May 2017 #61

No idea Bradical79 May 2017 #13

I suspect that it was jimlup May 2017 #15

Russia wouldn't need to rig the voting, the Republicans already have that covered. L. Coyote May 2017 #16

Got that right Alice11111 May 2017 #31

+1,000,000 PoiBoy May 2017 #38

YES, YES and YES! mountain grammy May 2017 #17

Once you realize that everything Trump says is a projection and/or admission of guilt... Hekate May 2017 #18

Good post Alice11111 May 2017 #33

VOTE BY MAIL LIKE WE DO IN OREGON. trueblue2007 May 2017 #37

Very good point MFM008 May 2017 #44

Check out this paper by Dr. Ron Baiman triron May 2017 #20

Unadjusted exit poll theories aren't worth taking seriously mythology May 2017 #54

I think the states that use wifi to aggregate and tabulate TheDebbieDee May 2017 #21

I know the DREs flip votes Sancho May 2017 #22

"I see myself not bothering to vote, because what point is there ..." ... Jopin Klobe May 2017 #24

I'll go to my grave believing that Shrub rigged the voting machines in 2004 aeromanKC May 2017 #25

"I'll go to my grave believing that Shrub rigged the voting machines in 2004." LenaBaby61 May 2017 #80

very little surprises me anymore Warren DeMontague May 2017 #26

I believe it was Jack Bone May 2017 #27

I always thought Ohio was stolen in 2004. Kerry was winning in the exit polls and bush notdarkyet May 2017 #28

I see no evidence that machines were hacked. Nate Silver gave Trump about a 1 in 3 chance of winning Doodley May 2017 #29

My thoughts.... Dan May 2017 #34

Yes, but not vote switching, by taking Dems off of rolls SaveAmerica May 2017 #35

I have always figured that we need to beat them by more than 10% to account for fraud. 58Sunliner May 2017 #39

correct; hacking a few strategic precincts could throw an entire presidential election. nt TheFrenchRazor May 2017 #41

the machines need to go; we need all paper ballots, all hand counted, all the time. nt TheFrenchRazor May 2017 #40

Yes, in at least 3 ways, none of them Russian: ucrdem May 2017 #42

yes. the GOP + photo IDs. pansypoo53219 May 2017 #46

the russians installed the illegitimate republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief Achilleaze May 2017 #47

Having looked into it a lot I don't see how- I think it's a denial mechanism for some Lee-Lee May 2017 #49

I agree, glad to see there is at least a few people being rational about this Amishman May 2017 #50

Exactly. To be undetected would require a MASSIVE undertaking Lee-Lee May 2017 #51

wrong. nt TheFrenchRazor May 2017 #74

Then please explain the logistics of it Lee-Lee May 2017 #77

Thanks for that info. It makes sense. Chemisse May 2017 #55

"it's a denial mechanism for some" ... I 100% agree. JoeStuckInOH May 2017 #64

excellent post. nt m-lekktor May 2017 #65

Hacked state and local electoral boards ... that's a fact .... that's about how easy it is uponit7771 May 2017 #70

Yep. They did steal the election, but not with electronic voting machines. wildeyed May 2017 #71

Yes Botany May 2017 #52

Why put this on Russia? It was the GOP that "rigged" this election justiceischeap May 2017 #56

Yep, I believe they did help a lot nt Stellar May 2017 #58

IDK,but I keep thinking Comey gave the undecided just long enough time to change their mind about.. Stellar May 2017 #57

In most contests cheaters are disqualified. cynical_idealist May 2017 #63

true, and there is literally no penalty for stealing a presidential election. nt TheFrenchRazor May 2017 #75

Order a paper ballot. Copy before sending for record judesedit May 2017 #67

It was rigged, but not in the way you are saying. wildeyed May 2017 #72

YES, the rethug primaries AND the GE were both rigged! ecstatic May 2017 #73

There are way more of us than them, yes they flipped votes, lots of them Eliot Rosewater May 2017 #76

Maybe. moondust May 2017 #78

really, "you see your self not bothering to vote, because it is just a big fundraising campaign for still_one May 2017 #79

You must vote. We have one chance to save America from one-party dictatorship: 2018. sharedvalues May 2017 #81

To rig an election electronically, would require either rigging individual machines, Blue Meany May 2017 #82

Most important thread ever sellitman May 2017 #83

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2017 #84

Actually, the entire Republican Party is rigged against the citizens of the US and the world Fluke a Snooker May 2017 #85

So far it looks like it wasn't quite "rigged" - but heavily, heavily influenced. GBizzle May 2017 #86

Yes. nt. William769 May 2017 #87