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yallerdawg

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Wed May 24, 2017, 09:07 AM May 2017

"Would people work if they didn't have to?" [View all]

Universal Basic Income (UBI). The revolutionary idea to solve poverty and stimulate the economy by giving everybody free money is becoming mainstream. The goal of UBI is not to make everyone rich, nor to make everyone equal, but to provide everyone with a monthly basic income to provide for basic necessities. No more, no less.

Source: Medium, by Matt Orfalea


1. No More Poverty Trap

Our current welfare system in America is a disincentive to work. Because the money is conditional on you NOT working (unemployment, disability, etc). If you are on benefits and you get a job, you lose those benefits, so naturally you’re less likely to get a job. Even if you’d really like to get a job, you don’t because it no longer makes financial sense. You’d be risking you’re financial security by doing so. This is a “poverty trap”.
Replacing the current welfare system with an Universal Basic Income would remove that current work disincentive. Since Universal Basic Income is unconditionally guaranteed, nobody would be penalized for working. If we all had UBI, everybody who works a job will earn more than somebody who does not. It will finally pay to work again.


2. More Efficient Work

No bank teller is more efficient at counting and dispensing money than an ATM machine. That’s a fact. Machine work is a great thing in terms of productivity and efficiency. But it’s not so great a thing when we live in a society where we’re all dependent on a job’s income for survival.
Technology already exists that will likely automate half of all jobs in the next 20 years. This may sound like the dystopian plot of “The Matrix”. But it doesn’t have to be. A Universal Basic Income will protect workers from the otherwise inevitable poverty of joblessness. It will also be a catalyst for more efficient automated work, allowing humans to spend less time on thoughtless repetitive tasks, and more time on works of passion and innovation.

3. More Innovative Work


Due to an epidemic of financial insecurity, the large majority of the workforce is restricted to doing work that is profitable. But not all work, especially innovative work, or work that benefits society in the long run, is profitable. (For example, the invention of the polio vaccine has saved countless lives, but its developer Jonas Salk didn’t make a dime selling it. Because he never patented it.)
Henry George put it well in 1879:
“The fact is that the work which improves the condition of mankind, the work which extends knowledge and increases power and enriches literature, and elevates thought, is not done to secure a living. It is not the work of slaves, driven to their task either by the lash of a master or by animal necessities. It is the work of men who perform it for their own sake, and not that they may get more to eat or drink, or wear, or display. In a state of society where want is abolished, work of this sort could be enormously increased.”


4. More Work Opportunity.

What if you don’t want to invent the next polio vaccine. What if you just want to a traditional job working for someone else to earn enough to to afford a nicer house, a bigger family, and/or a vacation every once in a while? Well, Universal Basic Income helps in that department as well. Because UBI will create more business opportunities.
By putting more money in the hands of more people, UBI will increase aggregate demand (create more potential customers). This creates an environment with more incentive and opportunity to create new businesses (and improve old business) to compete for the new customers.

Much more at: https://medium.com/basic-income/would-people-work-if-they-didnt-have-to-ef91cbec600f
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Most people would treestar May 2017 #1
I think today most people work to survive! yallerdawg May 2017 #4
True enough. treestar May 2017 #6
I agree get the red out May 2017 #10
Some right wingers do, but they are deserving. Like those guys who took over that Malheur Dream Girl May 2017 #14
+1 treestar May 2017 #22
Agree, but it's not just "American values." People work Hortensis May 2017 #19
and to have a better life in terms of treestar May 2017 #23
Conservatives naturally have a dark view of humanity. Hortensis May 2017 #26
Yeah their view of people is too negative treestar May 2017 #35
Anger and fear, anger and fear. VOX May 2017 #41
+100. Today's right-wing extremism is toxic. The Atlantic Hortensis May 2017 #42
Many people would not choose to work too. FLPanhandle May 2017 #21
I can agree with that, too treestar May 2017 #24
This is real also. But total veggies would spend their limited income Hortensis May 2017 #29
Maybe kids and old people would get more attention then, too. And parents would get relief lostnfound May 2017 #40
Many folks on disability do work janterry May 2017 #2
I worked for years even while disabled but I finally got Doreen May 2017 #32
If we're looking at one group of people to start giving it to . . . HughBeaumont May 2017 #3
This isn't about 'paying into.' yallerdawg May 2017 #5
While I support some model of UBI.... Adrahil May 2017 #11
Social justice. yallerdawg May 2017 #15
That's nice. Adrahil May 2017 #16
I'm going off of "what would happen if UBI were instituted". HughBeaumont May 2017 #27
"1. No More Poverty Trap" yallerdawg May 2017 #37
It is quite unfair to treestar May 2017 #7
I'll be honest--I wouldn't work if I didn't have to justiceischeap May 2017 #8
Follow your bliss! yallerdawg May 2017 #9
In other words, you would do work that you love. Iggo May 2017 #12
I don't see Photography as work though justiceischeap May 2017 #13
It sounds like a nice idea, but affordable housing would be a major issue. smirkymonkey May 2017 #17
Depends on what is considered "affordable" housing? yallerdawg May 2017 #28
Given the precarious state of our environment I think the less humans do, the better. nt jalan48 May 2017 #18
Maybe use UBI as an environmental incentive FLPanhandle May 2017 #20
UBI would be unconditional and universal. yallerdawg May 2017 #25
I just don't see this happening without some conditions FLPanhandle May 2017 #33
Universal Basic Income. yallerdawg May 2017 #36
I would strongly agree with that Calculating May 2017 #31
Aren't people with children potentially in greater need? Marengo May 2017 #39
I've been saying that for years. hunter May 2017 #34
I think people would still work Calculating May 2017 #30
What would Bernie do? yallerdawg May 2017 #38
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