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TheKentuckian

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47. Jackpine, never give the "sensible centrists" and "pragmatic progressives" a bye
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 11:08 PM
Jul 2012

You know they will go to about any length to dig up a distraction and you already had a tough row to hoe to overcome visceral knee-jerking when the sex offender subject is an important jumping off point to have this discussion and to bust out FEMA camps when you are trying to have an attempt at a serious topic is post suicide.

These tactics are stunningly familiar and it is a shame you can't feel at home and put your feet up but it isn't really like that, is it? It is what it is but it is sad to have to be in hammer meets nail mode all the time instead of free flowing but you have important things to bring to the table that will stir some thoughts and it does no good to go off the rails and allow the meat to be ignored.

You are fuckin' A right about the building of a consensus of exceptions from the rule of law based on the accusation of the crime and/or because of the type of crime and you are deadly on target when you identify sex crimes as a powerful tool to build a beachhead to implement "preventative detention" policies. Of course now we have extended or even doubled down as a standard operating procedure in regards to terrorism where the accusation or even proximity to an accused can buy you all the hellfire missiles you can eat.

I think we have been wrongheaded in this broad area a long time, one a person has served out or finished probation then it should be finished. All rights restored, no having to check felon on applications, no nothing but rejoining society which would go a long way as a carrot to do just that rather than going back into the system, returning to crime, or even just quietly failing in a life of poverty.

The penalty should have ALWAYS been the penalty. If people think penalties are to lenient then argue that instead of all the extra judicial crap and the pseudo judicial monkey business you have brought to the table.

I guess forty years of slick, tough guy cop shows and a fake cowboy President or two have degraded justice into vengeance and reaction to instincts.

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Sounds like the old Soviet Union. If you didn't like the system, you had to be crazy. leveymg Jul 2012 #1
Amen. n/t kickysnana Jul 2012 #6
We have some here that romantacize the former U.S.S.R.. Puzzledtraveller Jul 2012 #37
Are you trying to say that somehow, in your mind; Indydem Jul 2012 #2
Absolutely not. Jackpine Radical Jul 2012 #3
So if a sex offender is sentenced to say, 10 years. Indydem Jul 2012 #4
The overall rate of sex offense recidivism is in the neighborhood of 5%. Jackpine Radical Jul 2012 #5
I think you missed the point Bradical79 Jul 2012 #32
WHAT FEMA camps? cherokeeprogressive Jul 2012 #7
I have known you from DU for a long time NNN0LHI Jul 2012 #8
I'll be first. There are no FEMA camps.... scheming daemons Jul 2012 #9
Oh NOES!1! Has everyone forgotten about the black helicopters? FSogol Jul 2012 #21
you are indulging in paranoid fantasies bonzotex Jul 2012 #10
Remember this? Jackpine Radical Jul 2012 #15
KBR contract does not equal FEMA camps for political detainees bonzotex Jul 2012 #40
I regret introducing the FEMA camp distraction. Jackpine Radical Jul 2012 #44
Thanks! bonzotex Jul 2012 #48
You certainly have laid it ... 99Forever Jul 2012 #11
FEMA camps is probably over-the-top malthaussen Jul 2012 #12
The reactions of everyone here to sex offenders Jackpine Radical Jul 2012 #13
You keep trying to argue that pedophilia and rape are a civil right lunatica Jul 2012 #20
No, I'm saying that the universal revulsion against sex offenders can be used Jackpine Radical Jul 2012 #24
My argument isn't that they deserve to be detained illegally lunatica Jul 2012 #29
The problem is that pulling over to pee on a tree Occulus Jul 2012 #38
Actually, I agree. Jackpine Radical Jul 2012 #43
FEMA Camps? You were doing OK until that. MineralMan Jul 2012 #14
i saw you piloting one of those black UN helicopters over my house, spraying TSP on my garden, so dionysus Jul 2012 #17
fema camps.alex jones style woo strikes again... dionysus Jul 2012 #16
I have no sympathy for the sex offenders. Odin2005 Jul 2012 #18
Since when is sexual predation a civil right? lunatica Jul 2012 #19
Legally convicted offenders who have served their time. Jackpine Radical Jul 2012 #23
Your use of an example is what's twisted lunatica Jul 2012 #26
There are no FEMA camps. nt hack89 Jul 2012 #22
And you know this how? ananda Jul 2012 #25
Because there are no credible reports of any FEMA camps. hack89 Jul 2012 #28
dude. they're hidden by HOLOGRAMS. get with the program. dionysus Jul 2012 #36
if you are really curious here's a good link bonzotex Jul 2012 #41
And don't forget the robots. Why do the scientists even make them? n/t Ian David Jul 2012 #27
I'm glad you asked! Inkfreak Jul 2012 #35
This seemed borderline, but still thought provoking Lawlbringer Jul 2012 #30
I'ts Time, sweetapogee Jul 2012 #31
... Arkana Jul 2012 #33
Jack,did you forget to take the red pill this morning? Swede Jul 2012 #34
I can't beleive people are twisting what you say so much on the topic of sex offenders. white_wolf Jul 2012 #39
I'n not at all against commitment or protective placement in every circumstance. Jackpine Radical Jul 2012 #45
If you are Time for change Jul 2012 #42
Thanks. Your opinion has always counted for a great deal with me. Jackpine Radical Jul 2012 #46
Jackpine, never give the "sensible centrists" and "pragmatic progressives" a bye TheKentuckian Jul 2012 #47
Thanks. As I already acknowledged, the FEMA stuff was dumb of me. Jackpine Radical Jul 2012 #49
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