General Discussion

Initech

(108,382 posts)

16. True, it is Montana.

Fri May 26, 2017, 10:12 AM

May 2017

But we really need to go back to the drawing board - we have to show that crime doesn't pay. Now Montana has a billionaire with ties to Russia representing them. But maybe he'll go down with the sinking ship. So we can only hope.

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

63 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

Takeways from Montana [View all] LBM20 May 2017 OP

I am sick of tired of the Dems being blamed for such losses...Quist was not a good Demsrule86 May 2017 #1

It's much easier to point fingers outward. Nt NCTraveler May 2017 #2

It is easy to demonize a party and then convince people they are not worthy of voting for Demsrule86 May 2017 #11

Just wait until 2018 leftofcool May 2017 #3

I hope not because that is disaster for a center left country at best. Demsrule86 May 2017 #7

You are out of your mind. Are_grits_groceries May 2017 #26

You are being sarcastic, right? still_one May 2017 #27

Actually for House races they have been recruiting many great candidates. LBM20 May 2017 #31

why? JHan May 2017 #42

Yeah they have to quit calling it voting in lockstep treestar May 2017 #10

I agree but consider the Democratic governor beat this guy last year. Demsrule86 May 2017 #14

There have twice been enough voters to vote for Sen. Tester and the Dem Governor. Quist was a weak LBM20 May 2017 #32

I'm not blaming the Dems. I have said there were a combination of factors. The national Dems could LBM20 May 2017 #23

No matter how much money the DCCC put in that race, Quist would lose. Demsrule86 May 2017 #29

Drawback of early voting Freddie May 2017 #4

Let sleeping dogs lie... kentuck May 2017 #5

I am not sure I agree totally with this idea...Given more time, Stuart G May 2017 #6

He was not a good candidate for the state...a moderate Democrat beat this candidate last year. Demsrule86 May 2017 #12

Kentuck, you have nailed it. Tatiana May 2017 #19

Well, they are being attacked by educated people. nolabels May 2017 #54

It's why we can't have nice things. Initech May 2017 #8

Yes so who really thought that a candidate like Quist had a chance? Demsrule86 May 2017 #15

True, it is Montana. Initech May 2017 #16

We might knock him off in 18 with a moderate candidate more suited to the state. Demsrule86 May 2017 #17

It was a very good showing for such a liberal candidate. Look at it that way. But yes, they needed LBM20 May 2017 #33

I've read about early voting being a problem Shanti Mama May 2017 #9

No it is not the problem...early voting allows people who could not otherwise vote to vote. Demsrule86 May 2017 #13

Yes, it does. But many people, myself included, use the option to avoid election day lines. Shanti Mama May 2017 #18

Look, we did not have a top candidate in that race. Blue_true May 2017 #20

And we have disgruntled people from the 2016 election forming groups to primary sitting Demsrule86 May 2017 #22

Yup. Quist is a nice folksy guy but was a weak candidate in many ways. So it says a lot that he did LBM20 May 2017 #24

There is always that risk, but I have to say...I think the asshat still would have won. Demsrule86 May 2017 #21

Perez and Ellison are working very hard right now to reform an organization that turned to crap. LBM20 May 2017 #25

We have no time. We missed an opportunity in Montana by not recruiting a good candidate. Demsrule86 May 2017 #28

Unity IS a big tent. It means longtime Dems respecting new people and new people respecting the LBM20 May 2017 #35

We have been wasting our time with unity and need to recruit candidates for states Demsrule86 May 2017 #40

Well, let's see WellDarn May 2017 #30

Yes Quist did have a good showing all things considered. There was a large vote shift and the R LBM20 May 2017 #36

I tend to agree WellDarn May 2017 #39

Yep WellDarn May 2017 #45

Montana has a centrist Democratic Governor and Senator so centist Dems are the one that actually win hrmjustin May 2017 #43

Repeat after me WellDarn May 2017 #46

2016 was a bad year for Dems to win in Montana. hrmjustin May 2017 #48

The extent to which WellDarn May 2017 #49

With respect Quist's stands on issues are not why he did better. hrmjustin May 2017 #55

That is an interesting WellDarn May 2017 #56

No it is not. hrmjustin May 2017 #57

Let's think about this WellDarn May 2017 #58

I think what is defendable to say is nominating the most liberal candidate didn't work. hrmjustin May 2017 #59

And nominating the WellDarn May 2017 #60

True but she ran against GOP headwinds, Quist wasn't. hrmjustin May 2017 #61

And now we've come WellDarn May 2017 #62

Resist! hrmjustin May 2017 #63

Don't have east coast liberals come into massively red western states to "help" Foamfollower May 2017 #34

It seems Bernie helped to energize Quist's base in the endgame. Sanders wins many R's in Vermont LBM20 May 2017 #37

I completely disagree with your take. Foamfollower May 2017 #38

It seems you are discounting the many other factors. i.e.: LBM20 May 2017 #51

Take an East Coast liberal out of the picture, we win. End of discussion. Foamfollower May 2017 #52

They also outspent us 16 to 1 uponit7771 May 2017 #41

remember the candidate was picked when Montana Dems were still licking their 2016 wounds. hrmjustin May 2017 #44

Quist's biggest problems were the unpaid debts and back tax "scandals" the GOP hit him over the head andym May 2017 #47

Yup, part of his weaknesses as a candidate in addition to lack of experience. All things considered, LBM20 May 2017 #50

My take is he did well TNLib May 2017 #53