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FakeNoose

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79. Yes the age of the voters is as big a factor as race

Fri May 26, 2017, 02:42 PM

May 2017

I'm 66 years old, white, middle class, retired and female.

By all the generalizations I should be a Trump supporter - except the generalizations are wrong most of the time.

We Democrats can't play to the generalizations made in the era of over-polling. Polls are not helping us, if all they do is lead us to incorrect assumptions about people based on their race, age, economic standing.

The majority victory is earned one vote at a time, and it's also lost that way. We must continue outreaching to every single voter or potential voter who's having doubts or ready to turn. It's not easy when the people you interact with are only watching Fox News and nothing else. The seeds of doubt have to come from somewhere, it has to come from us during times when they're not watching the idiot box.

The only poll that matters is how many voters can *I convince* that it's in their interest to vote Democratic?

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If the Montana elections demonstrate anything, it's that white people will not save the Dems [View all] La Lioness Priyanka May 2017 OP

And there's this... PunkinPi May 2017 #1

Yup. La Lioness Priyanka May 2017 #2

It's delusional to think otherwise. dalton99a May 2017 #3

which LBJ knew would happen JI7 May 2017 #17

Wow, Punkin! Distribution of White Voters.. Cha May 2017 #90

Eye opening, isn't it? PunkinPi May 2017 #91

Yes, it's eye opening Cha May 2017 #92

We don't need a majority of the WWC marylandblue May 2017 #4

Or tazkcmo May 2017 #28

It is as much age as race SCantiGOP May 2017 #46

I agree tazkcmo May 2017 #49

Yes the age of the voters is as big a factor as race FakeNoose May 2017 #79

Or, that $$$ has taken over our political process?? disillusioned73 May 2017 #5

how is it that this money seems to only influence whites, and not POC? La Lioness Priyanka May 2017 #6

I am not even sure what direction you are going in.. disillusioned73 May 2017 #9

Obama won 2 elections with a minority of white votes BEFORE the VRA was struck down. La Lioness Priyanka May 2017 #11

I don't see how the one denies the other. LanternWaste May 2017 #25

OK,, and.. disillusioned73 May 2017 #78

United brought to us by the Greens and Nader put money into politics...this is the reality. Demsrule86 May 2017 #26

"And some want the Democrats to be pure...and not take money which would guarantee a loss." LenaBaby61 May 2017 #35

I agree completely...you said it better than I did. Demsrule86 May 2017 #41

Facts don't matter to these people. DetlefK May 2017 #7

How Many Black Voters Are There In Montana? SoCalMusicLover May 2017 #8

Montana is irrelevant n2doc May 2017 #10

+1 dalton99a May 2017 #14

THIS. all day long. La Lioness Priyanka May 2017 #16

Montana has only one house rep, like it's not that important in the scale of things. La Lioness Priyanka May 2017 #12

We need to stay around 40% of the white vote to win. DemocratSinceBirth May 2017 #13

yeah and we need to be able to find ways to get black voters ID's La Lioness Priyanka May 2017 #19

We need to do both. Lucky Luciano May 2017 #60

I don't think you can make generalizations about the national electorate DefenseLawyer May 2017 #15

what percentage of the white vote did Obama get again? La Lioness Priyanka May 2017 #18

it shows we still struggle with rural voters Amishman May 2017 #34

A coalition of voters will "save" the Dems Tom Rinaldo May 2017 #20

every time we say we need to get rid of identity politics La Lioness Priyanka May 2017 #21

I don't believe we should "get rid of identity politics." Tom Rinaldo May 2017 #23

great. maybe you can send the message to the person whose avatar La Lioness Priyanka May 2017 #24

Believe it or not, your post was alerted on. cwydro May 2017 #30

i believe it. La Lioness Priyanka May 2017 #31

He is not always pitch perfect, no one is Tom Rinaldo May 2017 #33

I know this won't be accepted WellDarn May 2017 #22

I 100% agree with you and 0% disagree with you Tom Rinaldo May 2017 #27

Unfortunately WellDarn May 2017 #68

I agree Gothmog May 2017 #29

We also have to invest substantial resources in stopping repug cheating brush May 2017 #32

agreed, and that is what i mean by an investment in POC communities. La Lioness Priyanka May 2017 #37

Those same "white people" elected Steve Bullock and Jon Tester. brooklynite May 2017 #36

and Donald Trump by a 20 pt margin. nt La Lioness Priyanka May 2017 #38

And Montana is normally such a great place for Democratic candidates! QC May 2017 #39

... LexVegas May 2017 #40

Until we stop using easily hackable no paper trail e-voting machines judesedit May 2017 #42

I think it's more rural whites that are 100% Repug. lark May 2017 #43

again, i never said a 100% of whites were anything. La Lioness Priyanka May 2017 #45

You realize that I probably can find a slew of house and senate races onenote May 2017 #44

I think the OP is about a straw man . . FairWinds May 2017 #47

There was a whole primary intimating that very point wasn't there?! uponit7771 May 2017 #84

Yeah, you guys are big on "intimation," FairWinds May 2017 #94

K&R. 53 percent of the white woman vote went to Trump. WhiskeyGrinder May 2017 #48

yeah. also focusing on POC doesn't mean we are kicking white people out of the party La Lioness Priyanka May 2017 #51

They do indeed. Some people worry that privilege is a pie. WhiskeyGrinder May 2017 #52

Racists these days choose to be racists. liberalmuse May 2017 #50

We need a coalition with high turnout to win IronLionZion May 2017 #53

Hopefully young people will be able to see how much it fucking matters. bettyellen May 2017 #54

that's always been my hypothesis. that as long as we depend on the youth vote La Lioness Priyanka May 2017 #67

I've seen dumb shit like we would have "free college and healthcare by NOW" bettyellen May 2017 #73

Don't forget though DownriverDem May 2017 #55

The candidate was a nice guy but not a good fit for the state. hrmjustin May 2017 #56

There is no such thibng as "white people" and saying it is racism. L. Coyote May 2017 #57

lol. La Lioness Priyanka May 2017 #63

Really?! You think that's the way society see's my kids ?! uponit7771 May 2017 #85

39-40% of the white vote is enough to save Democrats Awsi Dooger May 2017 #58

What the Montana election demonstrated to me was democrank May 2017 #59

+1, and Perez's reason for showing up late was "money" ... while the KGOP put in millions uponit7771 May 2017 #86

The Democratic Party needs to focus on all people lancelyons May 2017 #61

I'm a white male and think you are right about that ... KPN May 2017 #62

The problem is low voter turnout. Restrictive voting etc..Montana doesn't prove anything. 58Sunliner May 2017 #64

i thought there was a democratic approach highlighting populism that could break those barriers? La Lioness Priyanka May 2017 #66

While I would have voted for Quist if I lived in Montana TexasTowelie May 2017 #65

Disagree romanic May 2017 #69

where did i say that? it's funny how some people will interpret any emphasis on POC La Lioness Priyanka May 2017 #72

I want to thank all the blue counties in Montana who tried their damnest! Crowman2009 May 2017 #70

K&R, K&R K&R K&R... ismnotwasm May 2017 #71

The same White people in Montana have a Democrat as Governor and a Democrat as US Senator. Blue_true May 2017 #74

Quist wasn't suited for Montana? thx in advance uponit7771 May 2017 #87

I am a white WC male in my sixties OP workinclasszero May 2017 #75

they were given a crazy stark choice this time, but million of black in Wisconsin La Lioness Priyanka May 2017 #76

They cannot stop a massive blue wave election nationwide in 2018 workinclasszero May 2017 #77

+1 !!!! "The Democratic party should now concentrate on the folks who stayed home" uponit7771 May 2017 #88

Wheres more than enough votes there workinclasszero May 2017 #89

Then we have a problem. mwooldri May 2017 #80

first of all we do have a problem as evidenced by the fact La Lioness Priyanka May 2017 #83

No ONE group can "save" the Dems Muneravenmn May 2017 #81

a majority of whites did not vote for Obama. La Lioness Priyanka May 2017 #82

Democrats haven't held that seat in more than 20 years. alarimer May 2017 #93

Quist was a weak candidate and it's a red state. Simple as that. LBM20 May 2017 #95

K&R Quayblue May 2017 #96