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41. They also outspent us 16 to 1

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Takeways from Montana [View all] LBM20 May 2017 OP

I am sick of tired of the Dems being blamed for such losses...Quist was not a good Demsrule86 May 2017 #1

It's much easier to point fingers outward. Nt NCTraveler May 2017 #2

It is easy to demonize a party and then convince people they are not worthy of voting for Demsrule86 May 2017 #11

Just wait until 2018 leftofcool May 2017 #3

I hope not because that is disaster for a center left country at best. Demsrule86 May 2017 #7

You are out of your mind. Are_grits_groceries May 2017 #26

You are being sarcastic, right? still_one May 2017 #27

Actually for House races they have been recruiting many great candidates. LBM20 May 2017 #31

why? JHan May 2017 #42

Yeah they have to quit calling it voting in lockstep treestar May 2017 #10

I agree but consider the Democratic governor beat this guy last year. Demsrule86 May 2017 #14

There have twice been enough voters to vote for Sen. Tester and the Dem Governor. Quist was a weak LBM20 May 2017 #32

I'm not blaming the Dems. I have said there were a combination of factors. The national Dems could LBM20 May 2017 #23

No matter how much money the DCCC put in that race, Quist would lose. Demsrule86 May 2017 #29

Drawback of early voting Freddie May 2017 #4

Let sleeping dogs lie... kentuck May 2017 #5

I am not sure I agree totally with this idea...Given more time, Stuart G May 2017 #6

He was not a good candidate for the state...a moderate Democrat beat this candidate last year. Demsrule86 May 2017 #12

Kentuck, you have nailed it. Tatiana May 2017 #19

Well, they are being attacked by educated people. nolabels May 2017 #54

It's why we can't have nice things. Initech May 2017 #8

Yes so who really thought that a candidate like Quist had a chance? Demsrule86 May 2017 #15

True, it is Montana. Initech May 2017 #16

We might knock him off in 18 with a moderate candidate more suited to the state. Demsrule86 May 2017 #17

It was a very good showing for such a liberal candidate. Look at it that way. But yes, they needed LBM20 May 2017 #33

I've read about early voting being a problem Shanti Mama May 2017 #9

No it is not the problem...early voting allows people who could not otherwise vote to vote. Demsrule86 May 2017 #13

Yes, it does. But many people, myself included, use the option to avoid election day lines. Shanti Mama May 2017 #18

Look, we did not have a top candidate in that race. Blue_true May 2017 #20

And we have disgruntled people from the 2016 election forming groups to primary sitting Demsrule86 May 2017 #22

Yup. Quist is a nice folksy guy but was a weak candidate in many ways. So it says a lot that he did LBM20 May 2017 #24

There is always that risk, but I have to say...I think the asshat still would have won. Demsrule86 May 2017 #21

Perez and Ellison are working very hard right now to reform an organization that turned to crap. LBM20 May 2017 #25

We have no time. We missed an opportunity in Montana by not recruiting a good candidate. Demsrule86 May 2017 #28

Unity IS a big tent. It means longtime Dems respecting new people and new people respecting the LBM20 May 2017 #35

We have been wasting our time with unity and need to recruit candidates for states Demsrule86 May 2017 #40

Well, let's see WellDarn May 2017 #30

Yes Quist did have a good showing all things considered. There was a large vote shift and the R LBM20 May 2017 #36

I tend to agree WellDarn May 2017 #39

Yep WellDarn May 2017 #45

Montana has a centrist Democratic Governor and Senator so centist Dems are the one that actually win hrmjustin May 2017 #43

Repeat after me WellDarn May 2017 #46

2016 was a bad year for Dems to win in Montana. hrmjustin May 2017 #48

The extent to which WellDarn May 2017 #49

With respect Quist's stands on issues are not why he did better. hrmjustin May 2017 #55

That is an interesting WellDarn May 2017 #56

No it is not. hrmjustin May 2017 #57

Let's think about this WellDarn May 2017 #58

I think what is defendable to say is nominating the most liberal candidate didn't work. hrmjustin May 2017 #59

And nominating the WellDarn May 2017 #60

True but she ran against GOP headwinds, Quist wasn't. hrmjustin May 2017 #61

And now we've come WellDarn May 2017 #62

Resist! hrmjustin May 2017 #63

Don't have east coast liberals come into massively red western states to "help" Foamfollower May 2017 #34

It seems Bernie helped to energize Quist's base in the endgame. Sanders wins many R's in Vermont LBM20 May 2017 #37

I completely disagree with your take. Foamfollower May 2017 #38

It seems you are discounting the many other factors. i.e.: LBM20 May 2017 #51

Take an East Coast liberal out of the picture, we win. End of discussion. Foamfollower May 2017 #52

They also outspent us 16 to 1 uponit7771 May 2017 #41

remember the candidate was picked when Montana Dems were still licking their 2016 wounds. hrmjustin May 2017 #44

Quist's biggest problems were the unpaid debts and back tax "scandals" the GOP hit him over the head andym May 2017 #47

Yup, part of his weaknesses as a candidate in addition to lack of experience. All things considered, LBM20 May 2017 #50

My take is he did well TNLib May 2017 #53