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Luminous Animal

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77. Nope. He wrote two paragraphs on Paul in a 20 paragraph article

Fri Dec 30, 2011, 05:40 PM

Dec 2011

that was about the GOP primary silly season.

And those paragraphs (from which Mineral Man mined his quote) include a list the reasons why Paul can't get any traction with the media.

http://www.salon.com/2011/08/16/elections_9/singleton/

The Misery of the Protracted Presidential Campaign Season

"But what makes the media most eager to disappear Paul is that he destroys the easy, conventional narrative — for slothful media figures and for Democratic loyalists alike. Aside from the truly disappeared former New Mexico Governor Gary Johnson (more on him in a moment), Ron Paul is far and away the most anti-war, anti-Surveillance-State, anti-crony-capitalism, and anti-drug-war presidential candidate in either party. How can the conventional narrative of extremist/nationalistic/corporatist/racist/warmongering GOP v. the progressive/peaceful/anti-corporate/poor-and-minority-defending Democratic Party be reconciled with the fact that a candidate with those positions just virtually tied for first place among GOP base voters in Iowa? Not easily, and Paul is thus disappeared from existence. That the similarly anti-war, pro-civil-liberties, anti-drug-war Gary Johnson is not even allowed in media debates — despite being a twice-elected popular governor — highlights the same dynamic."

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Glenn Greenwald is an asshat for his support of Ron Paul. [View all] MineralMan Dec 2011 OP

You really should have picked a better quotation MFrohike Dec 2011 #1

This post was not about my opinion of Greenwald, MineralMan Dec 2011 #11

Uh MFrohike Dec 2011 #21

Proof? Mineral Man doesn't need no stinkin' proof. It's just his opinion that Greenwald supports Luminous Animal Dec 2011 #36

Bullshit. Paul supports war with Iraq, Iran, abortion bans, and criminalizing homosexuality. TheWraith Dec 2011 #105

2 for 4, not bad MFrohike Dec 2011 #113

"Personally, I don't much care for the attacks on his views on social policies." TheWraith Dec 2011 #115

Here's what I think MFrohike Dec 2011 #117

Post removed Post removed Dec 2011 #122

Your opinion is clouding your judgment proud2BlibKansan Dec 2011 #51

No, he just sings his praises as a good choice for liberals. TheWraith Dec 2011 #108

You and I have a different definition for the word "support." Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2011 #2

Apparently, yes. Luminous Animal Dec 2011 #7

NAZI! gratuitous Dec 2011 #9

Yes, I suppose we do. MineralMan Dec 2011 #12

Election Season: where the simple-minded can't distinguish between Luminous Animal Dec 2011 #14

You claimed he "supports" RP. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2011 #19

So the point of your post is not the point of your post? I see. Thanks. JackRiddler Dec 2011 #102

What if you write hfojvt Dec 2011 #17

I've seen stranger things taken as support. MineralMan Dec 2011 #34

To anyone with a brain larger than, say, a pea? Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2011 #49

He was not a vegetarian oberliner Dec 2011 #99

K & R. n/t FSogol Dec 2011 #3

Greenwald is an asshat for supporting Citizen's United. Ikonoklast Dec 2011 #4

That, too, but again not the point of my OP. MineralMan Dec 2011 #27

I agree. I just expressed my opinion, too. Ikonoklast Dec 2011 #39

I demand nothing. I simply respond to your reply. MineralMan Dec 2011 #40

I love reading your OP's. They end up being the most circular threads ever. Ikonoklast Dec 2011 #46

Thanks! MineralMan Dec 2011 #63

Is there any other candidate promoting the end of the war on drugs, the end of Luminous Animal Dec 2011 #5

That bears repeating: Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2011 #13

Or who has had his very own racist newsletter? Nt arely staircase Dec 2011 #18

That is true. But that has nothing to do with the theme of Greenwald's article Luminous Animal Dec 2011 #41

No it was not the theme of the article arely staircase Dec 2011 #58

Is the statement about the "white supremacist" that he is against the empire and the war on drugs... JackRiddler Dec 2011 #103

David Duke may be in favor of Medicare for all and free college tuition. Who could possibly care? arely staircase Dec 2011 #118

Can you name a national Republican who will not pursue racist policies? JackRiddler Dec 2011 #119

I can only name one who published his very own white supremacist newsletter. Ron Paul. arely staircase Jan 2012 #125

You're right, Gingrich only published books. JackRiddler Jan 2012 #127

I saw that sig line. It's interesting that you missed the point of my post MineralMan Dec 2011 #20

Your title clearly states that Greenwald supports Paul. Greenwald says otherwise. Luminous Animal Dec 2011 #28

No but if that was the thing you chose to arely staircase Dec 2011 #60

Another person who did not read the article. That quote isn't even close to the focus. Luminous Animal Dec 2011 #64

I know his focus was the surveillance state arely staircase Dec 2011 #66

I posted the wrong link. Below is the correct one. Luminous Animal Dec 2011 #72

Greenwald makes a valid point. arely staircase Dec 2011 #75

well put. but hey, his shtick has an audience, and it's how he makes his living. i think a lot of dionysus Dec 2011 #6

Except for the fact that it is untrue. Luminous Animal Dec 2011 #8

I admire his ability to earn a living with his words. MineralMan Dec 2011 #24

I hope you don't start your HVAC articles with ... Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2011 #84

Does that mean that you are pro-war, pro surveillance state, pro crony capitalism, and pro drug-war? Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2011 #10

No, it does not mean that at all. It means that I have quoted an MineralMan Dec 2011 #15

Are you trying to out-Zocoloco Zocoloco? UnrepentantLiberal Dec 2011 #26

I have no idea what you are trying to say. MineralMan Dec 2011 #29

I would but it makes my head swim. UnrepentantLiberal Dec 2011 #31

lol Cameron27 Jan 2012 #126

+1 proud2BlibKansan Dec 2011 #52

Greenwald has repeatedly said that he does not endorse Paul. Luminous Animal Dec 2011 #16

Link to the article... (edited to add the correct link- it's the 1st one) Luminous Animal Dec 2011 #23

Yes, I know that. He was writing for someone. Writers often do that. MineralMan Dec 2011 #30

Tierra_y_Libertad asked for a link. I provided it. Luminous Animal Dec 2011 #33

I was born in MO. You're going to have to show me how that is support. proud2BlibKansan Dec 2011 #22

This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Dec 2011 #25

Someone else wrote a post about freedom of expression MineralMan Dec 2011 #32

Some people say that Obama was born in Kenya. But heh! They are simply Luminous Animal Dec 2011 #35

Yes, some do say that. You know it is not true. MineralMan Dec 2011 #38

This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Dec 2011 #42

Funny. He wrote his own headline and used the 1st paragraph to Luminous Animal Dec 2011 #53

Yes, but think of the poor people trying to get their pool clean. JackRiddler Dec 2011 #104

looks like more of an opinion than an endorsement or support.. frylock Dec 2011 #37

Shhhh. Don't let facts get in the way of truthiness.* Luminous Animal Dec 2011 #45

I suspect a semi-coordinated attempt to link being anti-War, anti-Drug War, anti-Bankster bailout Romulox Dec 2011 #43

I don't get WilliamPitt Dec 2011 #44

This message was self-deleted by its author Luminous Animal Dec 2011 #47

No, I hear you. WilliamPitt Dec 2011 #56

How about giving "good Ink" to: bvar22 Dec 2011 #109

Greenwald fucked up, his perceived support of Paul was unpopular. He backpedaled Robb Dec 2011 #67

Nope. He wrote two paragraphs on Paul in a 20 paragraph article Luminous Animal Dec 2011 #77

I realize he was merely using it as a foil to get a mention of Gary Johnson in. Robb Dec 2011 #81

Its not his fault that there are plenty of mindless dolts. Luminous Animal Dec 2011 #86

That's not even close. Robb Dec 2011 #88

Its nuanced, I know. Luminous Animal Dec 2011 #90

Careful, you might hurt my internet feelings. Robb Dec 2011 #91

and never admitted succumbing to the biggest temptation on the internet. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2011 #82

*snort* Robb Dec 2011 #89

Like the broken clock--accurate twice a day I just don't equate analysis of positions with support hlthe2b Dec 2011 #71

On the scale of "assholes like Greenwald can say what they want" BootinUp Dec 2011 #48

If you're using just that quote to interpret support for Paul your argument is not convincing. Poll_Blind Dec 2011 #50

Not Me! BootinUp Dec 2011 #55

Well then, who is? Poll_Blind Dec 2011 #57

Any number of politicans that don't blatantly lie about their political positions/views. BootinUp Dec 2011 #61

That's not an answer and trying to turn me into a Paul supporter so you can scuttle off is weak. Poll_Blind Dec 2011 #65

It was an answer and an explanation. You wish to establish BootinUp Dec 2011 #68

LOL, what you're missing is I already agree that Paul's a shit. As I've said, I agree... Poll_Blind Dec 2011 #73

The only reason you (and others) agree with it BootinUp Dec 2011 #83

Post removed Post removed Dec 2011 #87

God, we need the unrec button... joeybee12 Dec 2011 #54

Exactly. So projecting that Greenwald somehow supports Paul is... Poll_Blind Dec 2011 #59

Sorry, MM... but Greenwald providing analysis of Paul's positions does not equate to support of Paul hlthe2b Dec 2011 #62

I didn't know Glenn was endorsing Ron Paul! Rex Dec 2011 #69

LMAO.. there is none... SomethingFishy Dec 2011 #70

I know... Rex Dec 2011 #74

LOL.. I knew you knew... SomethingFishy Dec 2011 #79

All this Ron Paul talk is forcing me to Rex Dec 2011 #80

Despite who he does or doesn't support "Glenn Greenwald is an asshat", period. The end. Tarheel_Dem Dec 2011 #76

Geez, and he wasn't even on American Idol! Major Hogwash Dec 2011 #78

Why don't you post a link to the entire article that quote came from? So maybe people can see the Puregonzo1188 Dec 2011 #85

I'm anti-war, anti-crony capitalism, anti-Surveillance State and anti-drug war. AND I'm pro-choice Warren DeMontague Dec 2011 #92

_I_ avoid supermarket ground beef. Agony Dec 2011 #93

That makes more sense than the OP. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2011 #96

Some points about Greenwald, Paul, Obama, and my own take sandyd921 Dec 2011 #94

The kind of respectful post that has made DU what it is today. Go MM! Go MM! Karmadillo Dec 2011 #95

"Greenwald is an asshat!" "Taibbi is an uneducated idiot!" girl gone mad Dec 2011 #97

Actually, both of those statements, unbacked by anything approaching credible argument... JackRiddler Dec 2011 #106

He's also anti-civil rights mzmolly Dec 2011 #98

Where's the "support" part of your claim? You know, aside from whether Paul is the most anti." nt valerief Dec 2011 #100

Greenwald responds: MineralMan is "simple-minded." Robb Dec 2011 #101

LOL Cali_Democrat Dec 2011 #107

to say the least got root Dec 2011 #116

Just had to kick this back up. And ITA. nt DevonRex Dec 2011 #110

Saying that a broken clock is right twice a day is not "support". Odin2005 Dec 2011 #111

No, it's not stupid at all. Major Hogwash Dec 2011 #121

Look what Greenwald wrote under "simple minded"! Fuddnik Dec 2011 #112

That isn't "support". It has to be granted that two out of four are easily arguable. TheKentuckian Dec 2011 #114

Excellent summation, Kentuck: JackRiddler Dec 2011 #120

I don't think it's support, I think GG truly believes Paul believes those things. joshcryer Dec 2011 #123

I'd rather like to see you and Glenn battle on DU3. MichaelMcGuire Jan 2012 #124