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Thu Jun 1, 2017, 11:36 AM

Jun 2017

Everyone knows that is a man's job!

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Why are people still losing their minds over Hillary? [View all] kpete Jun 2017 OP

Good article with many salient points. nt justiceischeap Jun 2017 #1

Let's fix everything she is identifying as a problem. yallerdawg Jun 2017 #2

That is such a good article. Especially the last two lines. Demit Jun 2017 #3

Agree. DURHAM D Jun 2017 #4

And secondly, she's a Clinton. maddiemom Jun 2017 #39

KnR Hekate Jun 2017 #5

K & R SunSeeker Jun 2017 #6

It's because they can't stand intelligent women. athena Jun 2017 #7

+1000 smirkymonkey Jun 2017 #29

Yep, I am bookmarking this. stevenleser Jun 2017 #8

Gore retreated after the defeat and grew a beard, if I recall. wildeyed Jun 2017 #12

Apparently John Schindler Thinks She Should Just Shut Up Me. Jun 2017 #32

Gore and Kerry both ran worse campaigns than Clinton. wildeyed Jun 2017 #9

Kerry exceeded model results karynnj Jun 2017 #17

If I recall correctly frazzled Jun 2017 #24

He Was A Terrible Candidate Me. Jun 2017 #34

To each his own - I think he is a powerful figure, who when he chooses to speak karynnj Jun 2017 #59

Yes...To Each His Own Me. Jun 2017 #65

I watched the full speeches on CSPAN - he did lay out plans karynnj Jun 2017 #40

I remember trying to persuade a friend who was on the bubble to vote Kerry. wildeyed Jun 2017 #82

Kerry was very bad at messaging. wildeyed Jun 2017 #79

Your memory is shaky karynnj Jun 2017 #92

If a candidate can only get his point across in NYT longform articles wildeyed Jun 2017 #104

He won the debates - which required short answers. karynnj Jun 2017 #112

I saw Kerry on the stump and he was great (and his speech went unreported by local media) LisaM Jun 2017 #81

Clinton had media support? Seriously? She didn't get much coverage, much less suport lunamagica Jun 2017 #109

It was considerably worse as it was seen as attacking voters karynnj Jun 2017 #114

I know well what Kerry meant, and that he was taken our of context. Same think happened lunamagica Jun 2017 #118

Nah BeyondGeography Jun 2017 #30

She is a woman. athena Jun 2017 #48

Who on earth cares? BeyondGeography Jun 2017 #62

Wow. athena Jun 2017 #71

You just did what I complained about the media doing. wildeyed Jun 2017 #87

What message? BeyondGeography Jun 2017 #94

But you started with her character. wildeyed Jun 2017 #101

"A very bright woman without the courage of her convictions." BeyondGeography Jun 2017 #106

Oh please, give me more quotes by privileged white men wildeyed Jun 2017 #108

Oh, right, it's a guy saying it so, no-go BeyondGeography Jun 2017 #110

Yep. wildeyed Jun 2017 #115

You win no points attacking Kerry to make the case that it was all misogyny in 2016 karynnj Jun 2017 #10

But he wasn't PERSONALLY attacked the way Hillary Clinton is attacked. wildeyed Jun 2017 #15

The SBVT attacked Kerry on a personal level karynnj Jun 2017 #18

absolutely true, and Sinclar Media helped propagate that BS. I think the point still_one Jun 2017 #26

I suspect that is because HRC has always been both more promoted by and more critiqued by the media karynnj Jun 2017 #51

Every since Hillary presented her healthcare plan in 1993, for whatever reason, it was still_one Jun 2017 #52

I suspect it started even earlier - in the 1992 campaign karynnj Jun 2017 #58

No point to split hairs on this, but I personally believe the negative coverage was still_one Jun 2017 #61

that was odious, but he was considered a nut job even in Indiana karynnj Jun 2017 #66

That was opposition. wildeyed Jun 2017 #76

Kerry was not vilified for some of the things that HRC was personally vilified for ehrnst Jun 2017 #19

Kerry was told not to run in 2008. karynnj Jun 2017 #23

The point of the article is to compare reactions to the losing candidates AFTER the election. Demit Jun 2017 #41

Gore left the country after the SC gave a race he had actually won to Bush karynnj Jun 2017 #56

I don't know why you feel the need to give us extended readings of past campaigns Demit Jun 2017 #67

The reason was to DISPUTE the article karynnj Jun 2017 #68

Yes. Also the CBC rightfully challenged the election fraud and Boxer stood with them in 2004. suffragette Jun 2017 #57

I was active at the time and distinctly remember #7, Roger Morse louis-t Jun 2017 #63

Yes, they falsely pretended to be angry voters, but it was an engineered 'riot' done to shut suffragette Jun 2017 #64

This has been the pattern ever since she was 1st lady of Arkansas. TexasProgresive Jun 2017 #11

Bingo. Her lack of apology for her qualifications made her "entitled" because she's a woman.(nt) ehrnst Jun 2017 #20

The hatred the media holds for this noble woman mcar Jun 2017 #13

I got to learn how much many 'liberal' men I know secretly disrespect women. wildeyed Jun 2017 #90

K&R betsuni Jun 2017 #14

Because none have the integrity to own up to the part they played in electing Trump. n/t seaglass Jun 2017 #16

Bookmarking 10X Madam45for2923 Jun 2017 #21

Hillary haters are still chewing the bait/misinformation provided by Putin and our rabid right. Lil Missy Jun 2017 #22

Yep. They are as guilty of gullibility Jakes Progress Jun 2017 #31

When Hillary was a candidate, PatSeg Jun 2017 #25

A year or so ago I believe Rachel Madow made the observation that if Hillary had still_one Jun 2017 #27

Yes PatSeg Jun 2017 #46

well said.......... still_one Jun 2017 #47

"Sure, she cured cancer, but what about her emails?" wildeyed Jun 2017 #97

I just recall PatSeg Jun 2017 #98

Excellent. And we know why. Jakes Progress Jun 2017 #28

So obvious, yet some will go to their graves denying the misogyny. SaveOurDemocracy Jun 2017 #33

K&R WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2017 #35

Because those who live in convfefe houses shouldn't throw covfefe Tiggeroshii Jun 2017 #36

Obama was gives 220 min of air time. Hillary, just 32 min mhw Jun 2017 #37

The media also spent a lot of time talking about her meow2u3 Jun 2017 #43

Yes. Hillary's 32 min of airtime was interrupted by commentary critiquing every word she said. mhw Jun 2017 #45

They will continue this as long as she lives radical noodle Jun 2017 #38

Great, more of the circular firing squad that costs Democrats election after election. Les Cowbell Jun 2017 #42

Unfortunately painful examination is something we need to do. ismnotwasm Jun 2017 #49

Painful examination? Les Cowbell Jun 2017 #55

Attacks on Hillary are in part ismnotwasm Jun 2017 #83

what's always amusing to me: JHan Jun 2017 #102

Yes--I've always found those comments interesting ismnotwasm Jun 2017 #117

This is why Democrats lose Les Cowbell Jun 2017 #113

You knocked down a fairly mild article. I simply responded ismnotwasm Jun 2017 #116

Everyone loves a witch hunt. forgotmylogin Jun 2017 #44

We have to believe that Obama is as fucked-up as Trump? That Guy 888 Jun 2017 #50

Hillary "telling it like it is": bad. oasis Jun 2017 #53

The problem is that the media has always... Else You Are Mad Jun 2017 #54

Palin did not challenge our society's sexism the way HRC does every day. athena Jun 2017 #72

All a cover. Orsino Jun 2017 #60

"ferociously hostile to women in positions of power" Martin Eden Jun 2017 #69

Even on the AUMF, she was just going with the flow. Orsino Jun 2017 #70

I agree with you. athena Jun 2017 #73

Slightly less than half the combined Dems in the House & Senate voted for the IWR Martin Eden Jun 2017 #74

And what if it hadn't? athena Jun 2017 #78

Congress isn't supposed to give away its exclusive power to declare war. Orsino Jun 2017 #80

Thanks for twisting my argument. athena Jun 2017 #91

Your being against the war doesn't matter. Orsino Jun 2017 #96

It was those who voted for Nader who failed us. athena Jun 2017 #100

Nader voters were insignificant... Orsino Jun 2017 #120

I remember very well. I was here at DU. Martin Eden Jun 2017 #84

Congratulations on being so perfect. athena Jun 2017 #95

Nice little tantrum Martin Eden Jun 2017 #105

Obama only ran in '08 because of that vote, IMO BeyondGeography Jun 2017 #89

The enthusiam for Howard Dean was based on his opposition to the Iraq War Martin Eden Jun 2017 #99

My enthusiasm for Dean was because he was the only Dem who didn't wildeyed Jun 2017 #107

I got so angry with a segment on Meet the Press yesterday lovemydogs Jun 2017 #75

Great post - Completely agree. Andrea Greenspan knows exactly what she is doing, attempting c-rational Jun 2017 #77

and people, even progressives, are going to rant and scream and deny to their last breath that niyad Jun 2017 #85

This article is every damn thing. bookmarked. JHan Jun 2017 #86

Many misogynists don't realize that they are misogynistic rock Jun 2017 #88

I don't honestly give a shit, and I don't think Hillary does either. hamsterjill Jun 2017 #93

Thank you for that post! athena Jun 2017 #103

K&R. What a great article. Bookmarked The ending paragraph says it all TY, Kpete! lunamagica Jun 2017 #111

IT IS RUSSIA AND FAKE NEWS. If Ted Kennedy were still alive Maraya1969 Jun 2017 #119