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14. Businesses reserve the right to serve or refuse to serve anyone
Fri Jun 2, 2017, 05:45 PM
Jun 2017

The difference is whether the business holds itself out as offering service to anyone, but then changing its rules when someone comes in that they don't want to serve. But when the business openly advertises that it won't be serving (as in this case) men for one night, that's how it's different. It's how, for example, Curves "gets away" with being a workout center for women only.

Easy rule of thumb: If the business offers its service to the general public without reservation or restriction then decides not to serve you for a prohibited reason* after you've come through the door, it's unlawful discrimination. If the business tells you ahead of time not to patronize it for really any reason, it's in the clear.

*Obviously (though I feel it needs to be said in this instance) a prohibited reason doesn't include law-breaking or anti-social behavior (belligerent or violent or menacing patrons).

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For an ultimate take down... Else You Are Mad Jun 2017 #1
what about those pesky mens clubs? samnsara Jun 2017 #5
That was amazing! Control-Z Jun 2017 #11
That'll get tossed! yallerdawg Jun 2017 #2
the law specifically targets public accomadations like buisnesses rdking647 Jun 2017 #9
This'll get tossed! yallerdawg Jun 2017 #17
The Alamo is known for doing theme nights mercuryblues Jun 2017 #3
none of those are banned by law rdking647 Jun 2017 #7
Considering mercuryblues Jun 2017 #18
years ago our little town had to close the Ladies Lounge.. samnsara Jun 2017 #4
Defendant's Answer to Plaintiff's Complaint gratuitous Jun 2017 #6
how is this different than refusing to bake a cake at a gau wedding? rdking647 Jun 2017 #8
Businesses reserve the right to serve or refuse to serve anyone gratuitous Jun 2017 #14
That's totally not true. Places of public accommodation cannot discriminate. Gravitycollapse Jun 2017 #16
nope rdking647 Jun 2017 #25
So blacks can't sit at the lunch counter so long as they put an add in the paper? Major Nikon Jun 2017 #28
Simple solution ProudLib72 Jun 2017 #10
Oh, FFS blogslut Jun 2017 #12
read about the lawyer filing the lawsuit rdking647 Jun 2017 #19
Haha! blogslut Jun 2017 #20
read rdking647 Jun 2017 #23
I read it. blogslut Jun 2017 #26
This is a dumb complaint Gothmog Jun 2017 #13
bored dude whines about women having fun without men around nt geek tragedy Jun 2017 #15
the law is the law rdking647 Jun 2017 #21
Legally, it's no different. Ethically, it's completely different. Gravitycollapse Jun 2017 #22
im not debating the ethics rdking647 Jun 2017 #24
You're argument is tautology: you cannot discriminate because you cannot discriminate. Gravitycollapse Jun 2017 #27
You seem very upset by this nt geek tragedy Jun 2017 #30
Have Any Men Been Turned Away From the Screening? dlk Jun 2017 #29
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