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cherokeeprogressive

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60. How many generations of selective breeding does it take to change the genetics of a plant?
Sat Jul 7, 2012, 10:38 PM
Jul 2012

A fruit fly? A cat? A cow? What does it make me that I would ask that question? A fruit fly-ist? A feline-ist? A bovine-ist?

PC is so funny sometimes. It keeps people from being able to discuss things that are actually common knowledge and fact lest they be branded an "ist". Funny, I guess I was born without that gene. Am I an anomaly?

Why would human genes be any different than any other species? If selective breeding increases the yield of a strain of corn, is it out of bounds to suggest that selective breeding of humans might have, to some degree, the same effect?

Over the course of nearly 250 years, almost 600,000 Africans were imported to this continent as slaves. Yes, many were subject to selective breeding, after being selected by the slave masters in Africa for having certain physical traits. No matter how much it hurts to read that, it's a simple fact.

How many generations pass in 250 years? If the life expectancy was 40, that's six generations. Is it racist to think that six generations of selective breeding had an effect on the gene pool of Africans in North America and their descendants?

I'm reminded of that racist hip-hop song written by the known racist Sir Mix-A-Lot...

I like big butts and I can not lie...

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Our Atlanta Peachtree Race on July 4th RebelOne Jul 2012 #1
That's a distance race and the winners were East African. mathematic Jul 2012 #31
lol. Boy you are just stoking it, aren't you. Solomon Jul 2012 #2
I'm stoking nothing, MadHound Jul 2012 #7
You're saying The Bell Curve was just about sprinting performance? muriel_volestrangler Jul 2012 #16
Umm, you didn't read my post did you. MadHound Jul 2012 #22
The idea of the documentary is that selection during slavery had an effect muriel_volestrangler Jul 2012 #23
Umm, what documentary are you talking about? MadHound Jul 2012 #40
The documentary Johnson presented, which the article you linked to was about muriel_volestrangler Jul 2012 #43
Heh. Busted. Now I understand the rec count for this OP Number23 Jul 2012 #54
Perhaps you should read. Indydem Jul 2012 #3
Perhaps you should read as well, MadHound Jul 2012 #5
Really? "He" said that?? Indydem Jul 2012 #6
Jimmy the Greek said it and got fired. MrSlayer Jul 2012 #4
It is not wrong to discuss it. Logically. Some people just want to complain about everything. Logical Jul 2012 #8
It was very much survival of the (physically) fittest coupled with extremely un-natural selection. Schema Thing Jul 2012 #9
Did Hitler's genocide result in smarter, survival oriented Jews? Warren Stupidity Jul 2012 #10
+1 Coexist Jul 2012 #11
That wouldn't be a good comparison muriel_volestrangler Jul 2012 #21
Arguably, yes. Look at today's Israel. They take no shit from anyone. Electric Monk Jul 2012 #28
of course Jews dominated basket ball before Hitler hmm.... Johonny Jul 2012 #34
It's not wrong HotRodTuna Jul 2012 #24
Different populations do seem to have different capabilities in sports. Marr Jul 2012 #12
Look at what people spend time doing. ananda Jul 2012 #13
IMO continuing institutionalized racism provides African-Americans with incentives ProgressiveEconomist Jul 2012 #14
No, not slavery cthulu2016 Jul 2012 #15
It's all bullshit JonLP24 Jul 2012 #57
Wheaties, it should be obvious. 2on2u Jul 2012 #17
OMG RegieRocker Jul 2012 #18
It's probably not selective breeding for slavery taught_me_patience Jul 2012 #19
Nope. Still racist. (n/t) Iggo Jul 2012 #20
Then logically african populations in the new world would be superior 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #25
+1! uponit7771 Jul 2012 #37
Forget melanin content, look at body type. You will see that it has nothing to do with color or Egalitarian Thug Jul 2012 #26
At world-class levels we see people who have been selected to be especially good in their sports Retrograde Jul 2012 #67
Must also explain why Canadians are usually the best hocky players. JoePhilly Jul 2012 #27
Canadians were selected for Hockey 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #29
That is better than any recent SNL writer has produced, don't ya know. jonthebru Jul 2012 #66
Culture is a huge part mathematic Jul 2012 #35
Culture plays a large part. JoePhilly Jul 2012 #48
+1! uponit7771 Jul 2012 #38
Mike...Thank your African ancestry of chasing gazelles. Seriously. vaberella Jul 2012 #30
IMO it's not genetic at all. It's not NATURE, it's 'NURTURE' by racism ProgressiveEconomist Jul 2012 #32
then why did the Chinese win more gold medals in the last summer games? Johonny Jul 2012 #33
Kicking for ignorance. cwydro Jul 2012 #36
Due to my Nordic ancestry I have been genetically selected for raping and pillaging XemaSab Jul 2012 #39
I thought Archie Bunker was long gone? n/t retread Jul 2012 #41
IMO Mr Dixon Jul 2012 #42
Trading Places? This is your basis for relating race to performance? JustABozoOnThisBus Jul 2012 #44
lol Mr Dixon Jul 2012 #45
to repeat what many are saying, it is not slavary per se, it is who in the Americas were enslaved AngryAmish Jul 2012 #46
Other way around. Their athletic skills is what made them desirable as slaves - lynne Jul 2012 #47
Wow! ProSense Jul 2012 #49
Book by John Entine mzteris Jul 2012 #50
Book's thesis overreaches mathematic Jul 2012 #58
Fail. Not much more to this. bluerum Jul 2012 #51
I think a lot of it is cultural Nikia Jul 2012 #52
He might a as well argure that it was their proximity to caucasians that makes them fast runners. The Midway Rebel Jul 2012 #53
Who cares who says it? JonLP24 Jul 2012 #55
I remember Oprah saying, in agreement with her guest that Maraya1969 Jul 2012 #56
Remember - Murray, Herrnstein and their ilk are not biologists or geneticists. entanglement Jul 2012 #59
How many generations of selective breeding does it take to change the genetics of a plant? cherokeeprogressive Jul 2012 #60
why do whites perform better than other racial groups (overall) - look at weightlifting shotput type Liberal_in_LA Jul 2012 #61
Subsaharan Africa has a very diverse population FarCenter Jul 2012 #62
Sub-Saharan Africans were not the point of the OP. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2012 #63
No, it has to do with wha tis valued loose wheel Jul 2012 #64
No. Next? flvegan Jul 2012 #65
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