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Demsrule86

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162. Yes...the Stupak amendment cost us single payer and yet Sen.Sander endorsed a guy who bragged about

Fri Jun 2, 2017, 05:56 PM

Jun 2017

voting for it...Periello in Virginia...it was what we could get at the time. We needed 60 votes...so it is what it is...and we won't get single payer anytime soon...let's save what we can.

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Susan Sarandon Explains The Positives for Progressives of President Trump [View all] TomCADem Jun 2017 OP

Sure. We're all just collateral damage if the revolution. nolabear Jun 2017 #1

It's a metaphor to remember because the revolution was telling women and POC to wait too.... bettyellen Jun 2017 #4

Oy! Scurrilous Jun 2017 #2

She's such a privileged asshole. Good god. bettyellen Jun 2017 #3

"Susan Sarandon compares Debra Messing to President Trump" Cha Jun 2017 #26

Yes she is... NurseJackie Jun 2017 #46

Love your synopsis Tom. .. recommended for that (alone) JHan Jun 2017 #5

I can't stand that vomit-inducing imbecile lunamagica Jun 2017 #6

You.. Me.. Same page.. Cha Jun 2017 #27

Yes indeed Cha. Same page, as usual. lunamagica Jun 2017 #79

Aloha! Cha Jun 2017 #88

Buenas tardes, Cha lunamagica Jun 2017 #97

Totally Agree Wiseman32218 Jun 2017 #170

It May Take 3 Decades to Recover From the Damage Caused by "Progressives" Stallion Jun 2017 #7

Susan Sarandon Explains Why Shes Hopeful About Trump TomCADem Jun 2017 #12

The VANITY of "destroy to rebuild" ... she ignores the LIVES that will be lost. She's so STUPID!! NurseJackie Jun 2017 #63

As I like to say apcalc Jun 2017 #176

What a dense woman. BlueStater Jun 2017 #8

Sarandon. Sounds like a laxative product. Zambero Jun 2017 #9

I wonder how she thinks the newest radical noodle Jun 2017 #10

And this is the biggest Trump disaster of all... defacto7 Jun 2017 #11

We saw how well that worked out between 32-38 for FDR rpannier Jun 2017 #20

Was she on the Daily show again? Warren DeMontague Jun 2017 #13

Your white privilege is showing Susan Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2017 #14

Her filthy rich white privilage workinclasszero Jun 2017 #110

She's the anti-Cassandra: wrong about everything that's going to happen in the future. betsuni Jun 2017 #15

There is truth in what she says Egnever Jun 2017 #16

exactly, not a gamble I was okay with taking myself, but I understand the logic, which is not JCanete Jun 2017 #18

"Pain and suffering is coming anyway"? Excuse me, Hillary was NOT the lesser of the two evils. still_one Jun 2017 #34

Pain and suffering would still Motownman78 Jun 2017 #38

The odds are if those self-identified progressives who refused to vote for Hillary, had pulled their still_one Jun 2017 #44

Yes, but there would be less of it. Which is the entire point. DanTex Jun 2017 #52

Coincidentally, the right and far-left both "agree" with you. Hortensis Jun 2017 #117

So electing Trump was no big deal right? Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #138

Plus she can afford to leave the country if SHTF nt maryellen99 Jun 2017 #45

Absolutely still_one Jun 2017 #64

no it isn't false equivalency. I think we're headed off a cliff. The democrats often tac us... JCanete Jun 2017 #71

gee, only two things. How sad. The Iran nuclear deal, opening relations with Cuba, preventing a still_one Jun 2017 #81

Saving the american car industry isn't progress, its staving off disaster that was the result of JCanete Jun 2017 #91

"had it been even better" It was what we could get at the time... Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #139

We passed the ACA on party lines. That means it wasn't better because of people in our own party. JCanete Jun 2017 #159

Yes...the Stupak amendment cost us single payer and yet Sen.Sander endorsed a guy who bragged about Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #162

you really think that's what cost us single payer? nt JCanete Jun 2017 #172

We lost it in the House with the conservadems like Stupak. Nancy is tough. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #174

Yes, the argument is precisely that she would rather have more pain and suffering versus less. DanTex Jun 2017 #51

She forgets history. Too much "pain and suffering", people get lined up against a wall. haele Jun 2017 #70

She obviously has. I'd love to tell her that with her being an actress, the firts thing that comes lunamagica Jun 2017 #87

I disagree with you. It is that situation. Democrats have not taken on the forces that have JCanete Jun 2017 #74

Pointing out Dems' flaws doesn't change the fact that Republicans are worse. DanTex Jun 2017 #78

i don't think the view is that things are so bad they can't get worse. At least it wasn't mine when JCanete Jun 2017 #80

The cliff of yours is the apocalyptic vision I was talking about. DanTex Jun 2017 #89

I think the argument of mine you are missing, is that the Democrats aren't effectively taking on big JCanete Jun 2017 #93

I don't see how that has anything to do with Sarandon's justification for supporting Trump. DanTex Jun 2017 #94

Fair enough. I was talking about ways in which the Democrats have not been doing the right JCanete Jun 2017 #96

I think you are too hard on the Democrats. DanTex Jun 2017 #104

I only disagree with what you say by degrees. Its complicated and I appreciate your arguments. JCanete Jun 2017 #113

Fair point about Stein voters. DanTex Jun 2017 #118

oh, to this point...I actually think there are a couple things that are harder to come back from. I JCanete Jun 2017 #102

Another thing hard to come back from is climate change. DanTex Jun 2017 #108

That is a check you privlege argument and the willingness to sacrifice others is quite astounding Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #59

You articulated perfectly Demsrule. still_one Jun 2017 #65

Thank you...I can't stand people who sacrifice others for their ideology...which is what the Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #112

what about when people sacrifice people, to the tune of 100,000 for political expedience? nt JCanete Jun 2017 #115

Your post makes no sense to me...who are you referring to? Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #137

how about anybody who voted for the Iraq invasion, which killed 100,000 Iraqis. JCanete Jun 2017 #158

Hahah...you mean like most Democrats who were there at the time? A big who cares. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #163

no fucking way. There were plenty of people telling the truth at the time, in the know, and calling JCanete Jun 2017 #171

Twenty Dem votes or so in the Senate and 193 I think in the House. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #175

all of this was in the context of you saying you can't understand people sacrificing people for JCanete Jun 2017 #178

I still maintain the Congress was lied to just like the American people Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #179

no it isn't. It would be if you thought choosing a different path would be better for those who JCanete Jun 2017 #75

she doesn't give a damn about others suffering...she needs a revolution so she can feel alive... Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #111

That's not the idea I'm putting out there. People are being crushed, perpetually. Trump comes along JCanete Jun 2017 #114

Nothing could be worse than Trump ...and if you die because you lose Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #141

I always think that those who hold this view are those who will not be affected, like SS lunamagica Jun 2017 #82

The so called left of left or whatever they call themselves share the GOP's indifference towards Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #142

ICAM. I'm just baffled to encouner this coldness and indifference to the suffering of the most lunamagica Jun 2017 #160

I am too...it is shocking. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #161

Ooooooo...you're gonna get it now! QC Jun 2017 #83

The Grapes of Wrath Demonaut Jun 2017 #17

Shouldn't this have been posted two months ago... when it happened? That Guy 888 Jun 2017 #19

Oh, thanks for pointing that out. BlueStater Jun 2017 #21

I know it's older but it's still relevant. Cha Jun 2017 #24

Like any dead horse... tonedevil Jun 2017 #35

The horse isn't dead. It's in the white house. DanTex Jun 2017 #53

Try to keep up... tonedevil Jun 2017 #121

Who said she's one of the most powerful people in US politics? DanTex Jun 2017 #124

She occupies a lot... tonedevil Jun 2017 #125

Like I said, she's part of the Trump coalition, so it makes sense that people would talk about her. DanTex Jun 2017 #126

It's not just Ms. Sarandon... tonedevil Jun 2017 #128

Of course it's not just Sarandon. DanTex Jun 2017 #130

Does your calling out.. tonedevil Jun 2017 #132

Well, this is a political message board, where people express opinions about political topics. DanTex Jun 2017 #133

If you want to fight... tonedevil Jun 2017 #134

Obviously, when I'm posting on DU, I'm not knocking on doors, and neither are you. DanTex Jun 2017 #135

Call out all you like... tonedevil Jun 2017 #136

LOL. So my callout is "impotent" but you calling out of my callout isn't? DanTex Jun 2017 #140

Do you think... tonedevil Jun 2017 #147

If not Stein, someone else will be on the Green ticket. DanTex Jun 2017 #148

Nah, I bet she's still out there spreading her Cha Jun 2017 #69

You be sure to... tonedevil Jun 2017 #120

They don't have to run for office to be a menace Cha Jun 2017 #123

Bauman was elected head of the CDP. lapucelle Jun 2017 #29

Dear Susan, Doug the Dem Jun 2017 #22

susan sarandon is Full of Shyte.. Good on Colbert confronting her Cha Jun 2017 #23

Well isn't she just the little ole Polly Anna rpannier Jun 2017 #25

"raving lunatics of the Bolshevik" - got any specific examples or is this just KingCharlemagne Jun 2017 #43

This confirms my... Mike Nelson Jun 2017 #28

Yeah, she gets a giant tax cut if he gets his heinous tax bill through doesn't she? Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #32

She's an excellent actress but not very smart on politics. Nt Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2017 #30

In my experience... tonedevil Jun 2017 #127

Susan Sarandan makes me sick. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #31

"the American public is learning a valuable lesson". What a bunch of bullshit. How many people still_one Jun 2017 #33

It took the Great Depression Motownman78 Jun 2017 #39

That is a straw man argument. When an accident occurs, a determination is done to find its cause, still_one Jun 2017 #60

Let me modify that Motownman78 Jun 2017 #164

ok still_one Jun 2017 #165

LOL (Nice try.) NurseJackie Jun 2017 #67

Ah...we came damn close to losing our Republic during the great depression. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #144

Eff Off, rich lady who will never face medical bankruptcy... JHB Jun 2017 #36

The premise of her argument was wrong Buckeyeblue Jun 2017 #37

I'm so glad my house burned down. OilemFirchen Jun 2017 #40

White, upper-middle-class privilege - nt KingCharlemagne Jun 2017 #41

Many on the far left prefer to complain than to make progress. DanTex Jun 2017 #42

She is a right wing enabler. NCTraveler Jun 2017 #47

If you support Trump or his policies, you are not a progressive. Initech Jun 2017 #48

I'm ok with not hearing her very privileged opinion. themaguffin Jun 2017 #49

gee thanks rich lady Abu Pepe Jun 2017 #50

Yippee..isn't chaos funnn! weee.. mhw Jun 2017 #54

No, democracy is on fire you fucking idiot. But hey, go make some of those champagne popsicles. JTFrog Jun 2017 #55

Setting the house on fire in order to avoid an explosion Goodheart Jun 2017 #56

She's stuck on the maxim 'never let a good crisis go to waste'. Volaris Jun 2017 #57

Dammit, Janet. Orrex Jun 2017 #58

Susan Sarandon is an idiot Gothmog Jun 2017 #61

Ahhh... the voice of PRIVELEGE. So glad she can AFFORD the LUXURY of "destroy to rebuild". NurseJackie Jun 2017 #62

no mincing of words there Jackie. Her 50 million dollar net worth privelege that still_one Jun 2017 #66

She was more intelligent in "Rocky Horror." WinkyDink Jun 2017 #68

Am glad she is amused & entertained. Good luck to everyone else. Madam45for2923 Jun 2017 #72

And then her limo took her back to her mansion mcar Jun 2017 #73

Some people just like to hear their own voice. LOL Lib Jun 2017 #76

Planet. Schmanet. Janet. DinahMoeHum Jun 2017 #77

She is a nut. She isn't the Cornell West stretchy eyes type of nut, but a nut none the less. nt Blue_true Jun 2017 #84

Hope you're happy about today's speech, Sarandon Goodheart Jun 2017 #85

Fuck you Susan Sarandon ismnotwasm Jun 2017 #86

+1000. Fuck you, Susan Sarandon. Please go away. (nt) Paladin Jun 2017 #90

Do not care what she has to say, unless it is "I'm profoundly sorry for my stupidity." 6000eliot Jun 2017 #92

im going to go out on the limb and agree with okieinpain Jun 2017 #95

Do you, or a child of yours (if you have any) depend on the ACA to stay alive? lunamagica Jun 2017 #98

i know people that do and i will inform you okieinpain Jun 2017 #99

Obviously they are ignorant, and they will pay for it. Many will pay for it with ther lives lunamagica Jun 2017 #100

nope i live day to day like a lot of folks. but after listening okieinpain Jun 2017 #101

Just as I figured you (hopefully) like SS will not be personally affected by this lunamagica Jun 2017 #103

Sort of Like Burning Down The House When You Want To Add a Bedroom... TomCADem Jun 2017 #119

nope, people keep saying there is no difference okieinpain Jun 2017 #150

But Aren't We Now Starting From A New RW Baseline? The New Normal? TomCADem Jun 2017 #122

the problem with your point is you are not okieinpain Jun 2017 #153

Good Point That Misery Upsets People? TomCADem Jun 2017 #156

nope wrong. nobody said they SUPPORT rw agenda okieinpain Jun 2017 #157

Really? There is nothing to say to a post that thinks Trump is a good thing. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #145

I'm glad she came down from her tower to explain to the peons why "It's a good thing!" RhodeIslandOne Jun 2017 #105

I have a suggestion for Ms. Sarandon thucythucy Jun 2017 #106

Did you really compare... tonedevil Jun 2017 #131

I simply pointed out that Gandhi was willing to risk his life for the movement. thucythucy Jun 2017 #154

And this was two months ago! Just imagine what would happen if Colbert had her on again, now! Warren DeMontague Jun 2017 #107

Dropping in again to say $#!& Susan Sarandon. Scurrilous Jun 2017 #109

I'm fucking 67 years old, I don't need to be "purity-splaned"... VOX Jun 2017 #116

Susan Sarandon is a purely EVIL person. Foamfollower Jun 2017 #129

Privilege defined. (nt) ehrnst Jun 2017 #143

+1000. Sarandon just DRIPS with privilege, doesn't she? Paladin Jun 2017 #152

It's even true, as far as it goes, which isn't very far. Orsino Jun 2017 #146

More Recently She Has Spoke Favorably of ACA Repeal... TomCADem Jun 2017 #155

She's willing to sacrifice... NastyRiffraff Jun 2017 #149

Talk about clueless atreides1 Jun 2017 #151

I need a wall so I can bang my head in it. McCamy Taylor Jun 2017 #166

the Colbert appearance was 2 months ago, when she was doing promos for her Bette Davis thing Warren DeMontague Jun 2017 #167

Was it previously discussed? This is not LBN Forum TomCADem Jun 2017 #168

Oh yeah, there were a flood of threads about it at the time. Warren DeMontague Jun 2017 #169

Susan Sarandon really needs to STFU and go away. smirkymonkey Jun 2017 #173

Why does anyone listen to her? Nt leftyladyfrommo Jun 2017 #177