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30. White male Democrats were treated better. President Obama had to deal with racism,

Reply to karynnj (Reply #12)

Sat Jun 3, 2017, 08:36 PM

Jun 2017

as Hillary had to deal with sexism.

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Hillary Clinton To Next Female Presidential Candidate: Prepare to Be Brutalized [View all] sheshe2 Jun 2017 OP

Realistically, it might be necessary for the first woman president to be the v.p. first DavidDvorkin Jun 2017 #1

Boy, is that a Fifties mentality. I think we've progressed way beyond that. Demit Jun 2017 #6

No, it's a realistic reaction to what happened in November DavidDvorkin Jun 2017 #7

So we fight voter suppression. We don't say wait your turn, little lady, your day might come. Demit Jun 2017 #9

Before November, I also thought we as a society were past all of that DavidDvorkin Jun 2017 #10

She won the popular vote shenmue Jun 2017 #20

Conservatives hacked our voting machines - the Presidency was stolen from Hillary FakeNoose Jun 2017 #104

Do you deny she was brutalized? apcalc Jun 2017 #55

"Literally brutalized" (if the quote is accurate), no elehhhhna Jun 2017 #85

Realistically, the first female President may be a Republican. Algernon Moncrieff Jun 2017 #15

Yes, that's also true. DavidDvorkin Jun 2017 #18

Realistically, it is likely to be a Republican woman. Because then the Rethugs pnwmom Jun 2017 #28

There's a double standard for Democrats generally BeyondGeography Jun 2017 #2

Yeah... sheshe2 Jun 2017 #27

Of course you're right melman Jun 2017 #32

Excuse me? sheshe2 Jun 2017 #93

I suspect they are just talking about you.... Baconator Jun 2017 #145

Yup... sheshe2 Jun 2017 #147

I don't think it would begin to compare treestar Jun 2017 #114

I feel like America is in an abusive relationship with the republicans. Initech Jun 2017 #150

So I just looked up how to end an abusive relationship BeyondGeography Jun 2017 #152

Bill Maher was right last week. Initech Jun 2017 #155

I don't think many of us will live to see a woman president. yallerdawg Jun 2017 #3

Longevity in my family... sheshe2 Jun 2017 #4

I feel the same way. athena Jun 2017 #11

You said it. +1000 apcalc Jun 2017 #58

Agree n/t spooky3 Jun 2017 #88

Yes. Squinch Jun 2017 #108

She did get the popular vote though treestar Jun 2017 #116

I wouldn't discount it GatoGordo Jun 2017 #14

More than half the country despised the candidate... yallerdawg Jun 2017 #16

I won't fall into that trap GatoGordo Jun 2017 #110

That's a vague word, "unlikeable." treestar Jun 2017 #117

Unlikable or Unliked? NastyRiffraff Jun 2017 #124

I always thought it was more about authenticity... Baconator Jun 2017 #146

Clinton never got above 48% approval Motownman78 Jun 2017 #21

Yet she won the popular vote by millions. sheshe2 Jun 2017 #45

the benghazi crap was effective too JHan Jun 2017 #61

Clinton had a 69% approval rating lapucelle Jun 2017 #63

Hell yes! sheshe2 Jun 2017 #95

+1,000 NastyRiffraff Jun 2017 #126

She won the popular vote shenmue Jun 2017 #22

did you ever stop to think about the nonsensical "polarizing" meme ... JHan Jun 2017 #25

My guess? sheshe2 Jun 2017 #29

Polarizing....why? apcalc Jun 2017 #59

Exactly! She was a woman who didn't know her place. athena Jun 2017 #67

+1111 treestar Jun 2017 #118

Because the media and Rs had made it that way treestar Jun 2017 #115

I think there's a small chance that Nikki Haley could be appointed VP if Pence is bounced out... Hekate Jun 2017 #5

I don't think Trump will be impeached. He is already committing impeachable offenses StevieM Jun 2017 #8

In order for him to be impeached, there have to be sufficient votes in both House & Senate Hekate Jun 2017 #57

Excellent post. athena Jun 2017 #79

Thanks Hekate Jun 2017 #83

Male Democrats were not treated better karynnj Jun 2017 #12

It wasn't Democrats and "independents" who were saying those things... yallerdawg Jun 2017 #17

Boom! sheshe2 Jun 2017 #24

What days are you basing your claim on? Exilednight Jun 2017 #131

At least there's a step in the right direction! yallerdawg Jun 2017 #138

I never said there wasn't a misogynostic element involved. Exilednight Jun 2017 #141

Excuse me? yallerdawg Jun 2017 #142

She's only been the Democratic nominee once. Exilednight Jun 2017 #143

Women can be extremely sexist RockCreek Jun 2017 #154

And people of colour can be extremely racist towards people of colour. Exilednight Jun 2017 #158

Did Obama, who I loved as my President...or Kerry sheshe2 Jun 2017 #26

John Kerry has been a target of the right since 1971, when he protested the war karynnj Jun 2017 #89

White male Democrats were treated better. President Obama had to deal with racism, pnwmom Jun 2017 #30

JFC melman Jun 2017 #34

Bill Clinton wasn't subject to sexism or racism. n/t pnwmom Jun 2017 #41

But that's not what you said melman Jun 2017 #49

Yes, he was. It's beyond ridiculous to suggest that he wasn't. pnwmom Jun 2017 #51

Was Hillary running for 30 years? melman Jun 2017 #52

The OP is about the next female Presidential candidate. pnwmom Jun 2017 #54

Thanks sheshe2 Jun 2017 #73

Exactly J0D Jun 2017 #133

Yes, it would be unbearable. Welcome to DU, J0D! nt pnwmom Jun 2017 #134

Hello. :) J0D Jun 2017 #144

JFC sheshe2 Jun 2017 #47

Do you think she'd agree melman Jun 2017 #50

First of all I am a loyal Democrat. sheshe2 Jun 2017 #56

She was all but required by left and right to apologize EllieBC Jun 2017 #69

Boom! sheshe2 Jun 2017 #72

And was STILL criticized for it during the campaign! NastyRiffraff Jun 2017 #127

There is completely subjective - I think Kerry was treated every bit as badly karynnj Jun 2017 #36

After he lost the election, did people insist he wear sackcloth and ashes pnwmom Jun 2017 #43

Well - Did Kerry blame the DNC, the SBVT, his primary opponents, his terrible VP??? karynnj Jun 2017 #48

You can't really compare races in that way.. JHan Jun 2017 #60

I have argued for years that you can't compare results from different years - karynnj Jun 2017 #71

I'm looking at it from a systems perspective though.. JHan Jun 2017 #76

SBVT was a special brand of cruelty BeyondGeography Jun 2017 #65

In 2005, there was one report that Rove chose this because he saw that Kerry never spoke karynnj Jun 2017 #82

I remember reading Douglas Brinkley's book prior to the campaign BeyondGeography Jun 2017 #87

Hlllary has been defending herself. Kerry wasn't asked to account for his loss pnwmom Jun 2017 #81

BOTH Kerry and Sanders were told by many many people to never run for President again karynnj Jun 2017 #86

I thought Kerry handled his loss very well without coming across as a sore loser. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2017 #151

Or an A on his chest? sheshe2 Jun 2017 #75

That could only go so far and work on treestar Jun 2017 #120

I'm going to disagree. lapucelle Jun 2017 #125

rec YCHDT Jun 2017 #130

It's not exactly a sample of one. You are looking at the wrong sampling pool IMO. StevieM Jun 2017 #74

What I said is that only one woman has been the nominee nt karynnj Jun 2017 #90

Not nearly the same amount of demonizing treestar Jun 2017 #119

Hillary only lost due to election tampering and a bunch of flukes which happened at once Calculating Jun 2017 #13

I agree, however GatoGordo Jun 2017 #19

Well the Dems you know that sat out the election.... sheshe2 Jun 2017 #31

"Democrat voters" refused to vote for Hillary. And "too many" at that. oasis Jun 2017 #37

ha.... sheshe2 Jun 2017 #39

Wasn't likeable? Horsepucky. apcalc Jun 2017 #62

"Horsepucky"? You have omniscience? GatoGordo Jun 2017 #111

the ight has been anti CLINTON since 1993 & the rise of Newt. pansypoo53219 Jun 2017 #23

Hillary would have won handily in 2008 Awsi Dooger Jun 2017 #33

The real problem is that White women won't support a woman for president. Yavin4 Jun 2017 #35

I'm shocked that a majority of white women voted for Trump Calculating Jun 2017 #38

Hey, white woman here who voted for Hillary every time I could Old Terp Jun 2017 #42

I'm not Lotusflower70 Jun 2017 #53

That ignores that ANY Democrat gets near 90% of the AFrican American vote karynnj Jun 2017 #44

2020 maybe the perfect time for a woman to run and win. Blue_true Jun 2017 #40

"If you can't stand the heat" Locutusofborg Jun 2017 #46

I doubt it. Else You Are Mad Jun 2017 #64

To be the first of anything you have to be better than Pisces Jun 2017 #66

Who is perfect? sheshe2 Jun 2017 #68

Maybe not perfect, but extraordinary. President Obama Pisces Jun 2017 #78

Now you changed perfect to extrodinary. Fine with me. sheshe2 Jun 2017 #84

No one is perfect. athena Jun 2017 #70

Your reply is ridiculous. I never said I hated Hillary. I stated Pisces Jun 2017 #77

+ a million. It's time we are finally allowed to say what we were censored from saying in the campai mhw Jun 2017 #80

+1 betsuni Jun 2017 #107

Has there been a Presidential candidate in the modern era... Baconator Jun 2017 #91

She was far more than others. sheshe2 Jun 2017 #92

I don't think she got it any worse than the others... Baconator Jun 2017 #94

Care to list her... sheshe2 Jun 2017 #97

My top two... Baconator Jun 2017 #122

You don't see any difference between the treatment Hillary got and the treatment the rest got? Squinch Jun 2017 #109

I think Hillary as the pioneer has helped whoever the next female Presidential Candidate is, from still_one Jun 2017 #96

Hey you... sheshe2 Jun 2017 #98

she sure has sheshe, and as we all can see, she is currently in the middle of building still_one Jun 2017 #99

Hey! sheshe2 Jun 2017 #101

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ still_one Jun 2017 #102

;) sheshe2 Jun 2017 #103

No question. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2017 #153

Not if the woman running for President is a mainstream Republican andym Jun 2017 #100

That will never happen. George II Jun 2017 #112

I agree, the Republicans may make a show treestar Jun 2017 #121

They nominated Palin for VP already andym Jun 2017 #128

5 of 52 Senators, 21 of 241 Representatives, less than 10% in each case. George II Jun 2017 #129

However, there are enough such that some of these GOP women would be viable candidates for President andym Jun 2017 #132

Palin was rightly Ridiculed in a way Trump was not. Palin was not normalized by the msm JI7 Jun 2017 #148

might not have made it out of a GOP primary intact though La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2017 #137

Yes. Even by those in your own party. Jakes Progress Jun 2017 #105

Obviously the next female candidate must be able to see into the future and know betsuni Jun 2017 #106

She is so right treestar Jun 2017 #113

K&R Scurrilous Jun 2017 #123

Hillary Clinton was prepared to be president, she has the knowledge. I would Thinkingabout Jun 2017 #135

I hear you, Thinkingabout. sheshe2 Jun 2017 #136

Personality is part of the recipe... Baconator Jun 2017 #149

I think it depends on the woman Quixote1818 Jun 2017 #139

Agree. Kamala Harris would tell them to go fuck themselves, end of discussion. Vinca Jun 2017 #140

Kamala Harris would make an awesome candidate. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2017 #156

k&r DesertRat Jun 2017 #157

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2017 #159

Welcome Back! RandiFan1290 Jun 2017 #160

Hillary Clinton is correct in her analysis Gothmog Jun 2017 #161