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BumRushDaShow

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16. Good discussion however
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 07:07 AM
Jun 2017

the problem is that Russians, Irish, and Hungarians (who you didn't discuss) are all designated as "white" based on the U.S. system of racism/white supremacy, so it was easy to "assimilate" (ethnically) after one or two generations here in this country, and move on. However if you are a POC, you will NEVER EVER be permitted to assimilate. You carry the imposed stigma of the color of your skin forever. And if your skin color doesn't give you away and it is later discovered you descended from someone of color, like Homer Plessy, who was 1/8th black, then you are immediately reclassified as "black", with all the burdens that go with that. The political comedy "Watermelon Man" by Melvin Van Peebles, hyperbolically illustrated this -



When Jesse Jackson called NYC "Hymietown" over 30 years ago, not only was he tarred and feathered, but was drawn and quartered and strung up.... The term "Hymie" deriving from a legitimate oft-used Jewish name "Hymie" or "Hyman" (orig. Hebrew "Chaim&quot , but more recently used as a pejorative, not unlike the similar use of "Paddy" as a pejorative (despite it being a valid name as well). He apologized but it was never considered enough, and it branded him since and will for the rest of his life.

So the issue is not as simple as people make out - mainly because of the uniqueness of the dysfunctional American system of racism and all the codes and rules that come into play (or are cherry-picked for enforcement by the oppressor).

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Discuss, or make a cheap joke out of? How productive was that exchange? bettyellen Jun 2017 #1
Apparantly by virtue of being liked on DU SaschaHM Jun 2017 #6
then i need speacial clearance from someone to discuss it? dembotoz Jun 2017 #2
Time changes many the things. You need to change with them. wasupaloopa Jun 2017 #3
As a white guy I never had a yearning to say the N-word. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2017 #4
i am shocked folks on du do not seem to know this speech dembotoz Jun 2017 #5
It blows my mind. Malcolm X and W. E. B. DuBois should be mandatory reads. TheBlackAdder Jun 2017 #9
We do know it, and still think Maher made a mistake. Why assume that was in ignorance? bettyellen Jun 2017 #12
Here is the text of Malcolm X's speech..... MedusaX Jun 2017 #7
Every cultural/ethnic group BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #8
It's less unique than you think. Igel Jun 2017 #15
Good discussion however BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #16
It's kind of difficult not to "harbor resentment" when you get a daily fresh shipment of bigotry. LuvLoogie Jun 2017 #27
Uh, Malcom X is not Bill Maher shenmue Jun 2017 #10
Did Malcolm X drop the n-bomb in that speech? Humanist_Activist Jun 2017 #11
bill maher wasnt having a discussion on it JI7 Jun 2017 #13
It's open for careful, respectful discussion. Not racially tone deaf jokes. Gravitycollapse Jun 2017 #14
I think that is different than Mahar's context. Abu Pepe Jun 2017 #17
What's to discuss? GreenEyedLefty Jun 2017 #18
so malcolm x is only relevant to blacks??????????????? ok than you dembotoz Jun 2017 #20
Re-read my question. GreenEyedLefty Jun 2017 #21
U imply I can't dembotoz Jun 2017 #22
Or you won't? GreenEyedLefty Jun 2017 #23
Sense this is becoming circular dembotoz Jun 2017 #26
I wonder what the differences are between Malcolm X MineralMan Jun 2017 #19
The slavery of African Americans is never open for a white person to make a joke about, pnwmom Jun 2017 #24
Just Never HipChick Jun 2017 #25
Maher could have gone a different way with his "joke" lapfog_1 Jun 2017 #28
Or he could have said "sorry, I work in the house, not in the fields". Voltaire2 Jun 2017 #29
Yeah, either he made a poor choice or was way too comfortable using that term.... bettyellen Jun 2017 #30
It was an absolutely stupid thing for him to say. cwydro Jun 2017 #31
Seems the original text is house negro... Would that have been acceptable to say? dembotoz Jun 2017 #32
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