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CousinIT

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Sun Jun 4, 2017, 02:23 PM Jun 2017

Historian: "inevitable that Trump will try to stage a coup and overthrow democracy" [View all]

Yale historian and author of the new book "On Tyranny" says we may have one year left to save American democracy

American democracy is in crisis. The election of Donald Trump feels like a state of emergency made normal.

Trump has threatened violence against his political enemies. He has made clear he does not believe in the norms and traditions of American democracy — unless they serve his interests. Trump and his advisers consider a free press to be enemies of his regime. Trump repeatedly lies and has a profoundly estranged relationship with empirical reality. He uses obvious and naked racism, nativism and bigotry to mobilize his voters and to disparage entire groups of people such as Latinos and Muslims.

Trump is threatening to eliminate an independent judiciary and wants to punish judges who dare to stand against his illegal and unconstitutional mandates. In what appears to be a violation of the emoluments clause of the Constitution, Trump is using the office of the presidency to enrich himself, his family and his inner circle by peddling influence and access to corporations, foreign countries and wealthy individuals. Trump and his representatives also believe that he is above the law and cannot be prosecuted for any crimes while in office.

What can the American people do to resist Donald Trump? What lessons can history teach about the rise of authoritarianism and fascism and how democracies collapse? Are there ways that individuals can fight back on a daily basis and in their own personal lives against the political and cultural forces that gave rise to Trump’s movement? How long does American democracy have before the poison that Donald Trump and the Republican Party injected into the country’s body politic becomes lethal?

>In your book you discuss the idea that Donald Trump will have his own version of Hitler’s Reichstag fire to expand his power and take full control of the government by declaring a state of emergency. How do you think that would play out?<

Let me make just two points. The first is that I think it’s pretty much inevitable that they will try. The reason I think that is that the conventional ways of being popular are not working out for them. The conventional way to be popular or to be legitimate in this country is to have some policies, to grow your popularity ratings and to win some elections. I don’t think 2018 is looking very good for the Republicans along those conventional lines — not just because the president is historically unpopular. It’s also because neither the White House nor Congress have any policies which the majority of the public like.



http://www.salon.com/2017/05/01/historian-timothy-snyder-its-pretty-much-inevitable-that-trump-will-try-to-stage-a-coup-and-overthrow-democracy/
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and his followers will applaud him all the way there lunasun Jun 2017 #1
Well said! He is extremely dangerous! Far too Americans still can't seem to comprehend what RKP5637 Jun 2017 #4
Look at the ways he is already not being held accountable adigal Jun 2017 #37
Promises made -Promises kept. That is one the recent rw voter accolades for trump's actions lunasun Jun 2017 #40
k & r Achilleaze Jun 2017 #2
'On Tyranny' is A. MUST- READ!!! lastlib Jun 2017 #16
thanks for the rec/ never heard of it until this OP lunasun Jun 2017 #41
I wonder what he thinks inevitable means mythology Jun 2017 #3
But never has a president done these things. Kablooie Jun 2017 #7
He said it was inevitable that DT would TRY -- not that he would inevitably succeed. pnwmom Jun 2017 #10
The American people did not make a suicide pact with Trump and the Repubs to destroy our democracy Zorro Jun 2017 #5
Not with his failing support! atreides1 Jun 2017 #6
His failing support wouldn't prevent him from TRYING. In fact, it might pnwmom Jun 2017 #11
He can do it without popular support Warpy Jun 2017 #35
That's the key, will the military resist njhoneybadger Jun 2017 #42
w was extremely unpopular months into his first term. yardwork Jun 2017 #8
Republican President Trump/Pence. Culmination of 40 years of stupefying GOP machinations. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2017 #9
The genius types don't always get it right DFW Jun 2017 #12
When did you meet Gen. Clark?! I just think he's the cat's pajamas! ;-) WinkyDink Jun 2017 #14
I've known Wes Clark for almost 20 years DFW Jun 2017 #15
NOW I remember this photo! I'd vote for this ticket! ;-) WinkyDink Jun 2017 #47
LOL!! If Wes asked, I'd even do it DFW Jun 2017 #49
I think Timothy Snyder's book is on the money. lastlib Jun 2017 #18
The Generals won't back him FakeNoose Jun 2017 #27
I think Clark's pushback on Cheney woke us up and kept it adigal Jun 2017 #38
Maybe, but I don't think it was ever a real part of Cheney's plans beyond the wishful thinking stage DFW Jun 2017 #55
And the flag-wavin', gun-totin', "Don't Tread On Me" violent rubes and rich guys alike will be all WinkyDink Jun 2017 #13
Trump is too inept to stage a successful coup. Sneederbunk Jun 2017 #17
If he aimed at someone on 5th Avenue, he would miss. trueblue2007 Jun 2017 #19
But, with russian guidance he might not be. mucifer Jun 2017 #51
...and it mercilessly will be squashed like a bug. roamer65 Jun 2017 #20
"will Try"??????? Cryptoad Jun 2017 #21
K & R L. Coyote Jun 2017 #22
The crystal ball is cloudy. BarbD Jun 2017 #23
the other thing feeding this... Takket Jun 2017 #24
Treasonist scumbag. roamer65 Jun 2017 #39
I am going to share this! I have been resisting even though some are giving up. BigmanPigman Jun 2017 #25
Good for you. stage left Jun 2017 #44
THANK YOU for all you do. You're an inspiration to others. We can NOT give up. CousinIT Jun 2017 #48
t-rump needs an Althea bora13 Jun 2017 #26
One thing on our side is Trump's IQ. Kablooie Jun 2017 #28
Do not think for one minute... Charlotte Little Jun 2017 #29
Great book, great author. defacto7 Jun 2017 #30
GOP has now cozied up to Russia - "Russia is our friend" say DT supporters. keithbvadu2 Jun 2017 #31
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2017 #53
Lets us hope heaven05 Jun 2017 #32
K & R! Mountain Mule Jun 2017 #33
Expect a coup after he starts a war njhoneybadger Jun 2017 #34
I read this several weeks ago...we need a plan adigal Jun 2017 #36
I had this thought a few days ago, but I was thinking it more from the point of view of not Squinch Jun 2017 #46
Trump would vastly prefer... 3catwoman3 Jun 2017 #43
"In your book..." Mmmm-hmmm... Oneironaut Jun 2017 #45
Coup is probably hyperbole but I could see him try to curb OnDoutside Jun 2017 #54
Bill Maher Quemado Jun 2017 #50
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